Bears trade Howard to Philly for a 6th (possible 5th)

[Penny Traitor]

Jordan Howard just thanked Philly for everything. Seems he knows that they dont have an interest in re-signing him. Lulz.

They completely shut him down late so the Bears will only get a sixth round pick I bet. If Philly plays the offseason right...they could walk away with a comp pick next year that may be better than the pick they send the Bears this year.

That would be the final lulz.

 

[Jack Lantern]

Montgomery did not wow me this year. Seems very average to me and might be a little below. Need to see how he plays next year.

Montgomery is just "A Guy", Bears personnel is full of "A Guy" players on the O side.

 

[TexasBearfan]

Montgomery is just "A Guy", Bears personnel is full of "A Guy" players on the O side.

I don't think they have an elite offensive talent that scares the hell out of a defense....taylor gabriel has like 2 good games a year....arob is steady freddie and antmill can't consistently keep his head out of his butt, he's certainly not turning into steve smith like the draft comp said.....not sold on Wims and Ridley is not a gamebreaker. Cohen is the best East/West runner in the game...other than him we're mostly a bunch of plodders

 

[bamainatlanta]

They completely shut him down late so the Bears will only get a sixth round pick I bet. If Philly plays the offseason right...they could walk away with a comp pick next year that may be better than the pick they send the Bears this year.

That would be the final lulz.

I'm sorry but nobody is paying Howard big money. He's looking around something slightly above minimum. Philly's offense was more dynamic with him on the bench.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I believe the whole schtick was you keep Howard and draft a position of NEED with the 3rd round pick.

Nagy wanted a running back to be a threat out of the backfield catching the ball which was why they drafted Montgomery in the 3rd and paid Mike Davis 3 million.

Montgomery in a full season only caught 25 passes out of the backfield. Mike Davis caught 7 passes on the year before he was let go.

Just one of many personnel failures on the O side this past year.

Pace's biggest failure was he passed up on the chance to get a 3rd rounder from Miami for him the year before. And then chose to address the backfield in the draft, which was the slowest draft class ever at the RB position

 

[Jack Lantern]

Pace's biggest failure was he passed up on the chance to get a 3rd rounder from Miami for him the year before. And then chose to address the backfield in the draft, which was the slowest draft class ever at the RB position

Lots of fails on the O side for sure...

Shaheen has caught what? 24 total passes in 3 years?
Kevin White already out of the league
Mitch is Mitch and it hurts worse cause Pace unloaded 4 draft picks to move up one spot

Combine that with Mike Davis, Gabriel and Tre Burton as more dead weight on the O side.

THAT'S A LOT OF WHIFFS

Pace literally has to hit on every move this coming season whether it be FA or the draft to replenish and cover up for all these poor personnel decisions on the O side of the ball.

 

[dabears70]

I believe the whole schtick was you keep Howard and draft a position of NEED with the 3rd round pick.

Nagy wanted a running back to be a threat out of the backfield catching the ball which was why they drafted Montgomery in the 3rd and paid Mike Davis 3 million.

Montgomery in a full season only caught 25 passes out of the backfield. Mike Davis caught 7 passes on the year before he was let go.

Just one of many personnel failures on the O side this past year.

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The Chicago Bears said that they wanted a more versatile running back last year. However, they did not use the one they drafted

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[ChiKhan]

Not having him in short yardage situations and in the redzone hurt. Cohen was also a lot more effective with him then Monty. Say what you want but the eagles biggest wins were against green bay and buffalo both were Howard got a lot of touches. All to save 1.5 million and get a 6th rounder not worth it imo

 

[Viciousjay]

DM , WAS A WASTED PICK. Rb's are a pick of pull, QB's on the other had not to be found in any round. Can we stick to a top defense and running game, forF*** Stake?!?!

 

[PrideisBears]

Shit I would bring him back. Why did we even sign Davis?

 

[bamainatlanta]

Not having him in short yardage situations and in the redzone hurt. Cohen was also a lot more effective with him then Monty. Say what you want but the eagles biggest wins were against green bay and buffalo both were Howard got a lot of touches. All to save 1.5 million and get a 6th rounder not worth it imo

Lol. Sanders wasnt ready at the time and Scott wasnt playing yet. Once they got their feet wet, the Philly offense was better without the ex-Bears bums, Howard & Jeffrey. These Howard nuthuggers are always good for a delusional laugh.

 

[ChiKhan]

Lol. Sanders wasnt ready at the time and Scott wasnt playing yet. Once they got their feet wet, the Philly offense was better without the ex-Bears bums, Howard & Jeffrey. These Howard nuthuggers are always good for a delusional laugh.

What are you talking about bears rushing attack went from 10th to 27th. The backs were shit against the Seahawks. Congrats they were really good against dog shit teams like the Dolphins giants and redskins and the cowboys who the bears ran all over with their 27th rushing attack and the backs were ineffective when they played the Seahawks again. You don't think Howard would have helped when Mccown kept driving down the field and kept on ending up with 3 or 0 points. 9 points real effective....

 

[ChiKhan]

Oh and those backs were complete dog shit against the patriots too.

 

[remydat]

Lol. Sanders wasnt ready at the time and Scott wasnt playing yet. Once they got their feet wet, the Philly offense was better without the ex-Bears bums, Howard & Jeffrey. These Howard nuthuggers are always good for a delusional laugh.

That playoff game was set up for them to run 30-40 times. Can't do that with Sanders. Howard/Sanders combo would have allowed them to do that.

Boston Scott got 2.17 yards after contact in WC game. Howard averaged 2.93 this year. He certainly would have been a better option than Scott. He would have been closer to 5 YPC if he had gotten the blocking Scott got and if you gave him 15-20 carries to go with Sanders 14 carries at 4.9 YPC and you are in much better position to win.

As it stands Scott did much less with the great blocking he received which is most likely why they didnt use him as much.

 

[remydat]

Also for as much as people talk about it being a passing league, it is the teams that had the best run games that made the playoffs.

Top 4 rushing teams all made playoffs. Minny was 6th in rushing, Buff 8, Houston 9th and Philly 11th. Philly would have been higher if Howard was not hurt. That is 8 out of 12 playoff teams in top 11 rushing.

By contrast, top 4 passing teams failed to make playoffs. KC was 5th, NO 7th, Pats 8th and Philly 11th. That is 4 out of 12.

Easiest way to contend these days is to pound the fucking ball, play good D and not have your QB fuck up. Sadly this is lost on guys like Nagy and anyone who thinks RBBC can't use guys like Howard.

Few teams are using all RBs that are versatile. Instead a lot of them use a combo of a versatile guy and a more traditional running. Or a combo of a speed guy and a power guy. Jackson/Ingram, Coleman/Breida/Mostert, Carson/Penny, Gore/Singletary and Howard/Sanders.

 

[Unannounced Fart]

Granted, I haven't seen him play a lot, but from what I've seen of Devin Singletary, he looks a lot more explosive than Montgomery and was drafted right after him. Seems to have really good hands, too.

 

[TL1961]

Also for as much as people talk about it being a passing league, it is the teams that had the best run games that made the playoffs.

Top 4 rushing teams all made playoffs. Minny was 6th in rushing, Buff 8, Houston 9th and Philly 11th. Philly would have been higher if Howard was not hurt. That is 8 out of 12 playoff teams in top 11 rushing.

By contrast, top 4 passing teams failed to make playoffs. KC was 5th, NO 7th, Pats 8th and Philly 11th. That is 4 out of 12.

Easiest way to contend these days is to pound the fucking ball, play good D and not have your QB fuck up. Sadly this is lost on guys like Nagy and anyone who thinks RBBC can't use guys like Howard.

Few teams are using all RBs that are versatile. Instead a lot of them use a combo of a versatile guy and a more traditional running. Or a combo of a speed guy and a power guy. Jackson/Ingram, Coleman/Breida/Mostert, Carson/Penny, Gore/Singletary and Howard/Sanders.

Did the top 4 rushing teams that were in the playoffs run more than pass? Gain more yards rushing than passing?

Baltimore was tops because of their QBs rushing yards, not because they had a Jordan Howard.

Teams winning run more at the end of games. Teams losing pass more. It’s not simply cause and effect: run more and you win.

 

[TL1961]

525 yards on the season for the guy many Bears fans describe like he’s Jim Brown.

 

[Bears Backer 54]

After this season, it was clear no RB was going to be productive with the blocking we had this year. Pace definitely didn't get much for Howard but it would've been Howard leaving and getting nothing in return after another poor outing behind this year's Oline if he stayed here. Now whether we should've traded up to get DM, that is definitely up for debate but getting something for Howard versus nothing doesn't seem that big of a deal now to me.

 

[WindyCity]

They completely shut him down late so the Bears will only get a sixth round pick I bet. If Philly plays the offseason right...they could walk away with a comp pick next year that may be better than the pick they send the Bears this year.

That would be the final lulz.

You really think Howard is signing a deal big enough to get a 6th round comp pick after 2 bad years and a team that traded for him barely playing him?