Beckhams Quote

[brett05]

Nah. You cannot selectively pick and choose who you put in and take out. There are way too many variables involved in trying to make statistical sense out of
of it. Players come and go. Players play hurt and others stay healthy. Some players listen to a coach and others do not. What I see is what I see. I talked to Steverson a year ago when he was in Arizona with the A's minor league camp and the people that I talked to while there were raving about him. I also read a lot about him and it is all positive.

Great, you talked to him

There's nothing random to the judgement

And objectively he's made zero difference to date

 

[The Hawk]

Great, you talked to him

There's nothing random to the judgement

And objectively he's made zero difference to date

According to what you think is meaningful. Statistics can be used and misused by people wanting to make an argument or to support a supposition. YOu want to take one guy out of a data set and make an argument that supports your opinion. That is how you see it. Why not take out Gillespie and Eaton also? Then you can say that Steverson is doing a worse job as hitting guru.

I suggest this. Look Steverson up on the internet and see what the guy's reputation is across baseball. I know what my eyes see regarding some things that are apparent in this year's hitters. None of us know what, if anything Steverson has done specifically as a hitting guru. I just think that the guy is great.

 

[brett05]

According to what you think is meaningful. Statistics can be used and misused by people wanting to make an argument or to support a supposition. YOu want to take one guy out of a data set and make an argument that supports your opinion. That is how you see it. Why not take out Gillespie and Eaton also? Then you can say that Steverson is doing a worse job as hitting guru.

I suggest this. Look Steverson up on the internet and see what the guy's reputation is across baseball. I know what my eyes see regarding some things that are apparent in this year's hitters. None of us know what, if anything Steverson has done specifically as a hitting guru. I just think that the guy is great.

And you've proven he's actually done nothing for the team. You are biased thanks to your man crush. I went at it objectively in search of a difference or not. At best he's no diff. Go ahead and get back to your bias

 

[The Hawk]

I suggest this. Look Steverson up on the internet and see what the guy's reputation is across baseball. I know what my eyes see regarding some things that are apparent in this year's hitters. None of us know what, if anything Steverson has done specifically as a hitting guru. I just think that the guy is great.




And you've proven he's actually done nothing for the team. You are biased thanks to your man crush. I went at it objectively in search of a difference or not. At best he's no diff. Go ahead and get back to your bias



What in the heck are you talking about? My "bias" My man "crush"? You merely do not see my point. You should but you don't. If you can take Abreau out of the data set, then why not take Connor or Eaton out also? Neither of those guys worked with Steverson either.

To say that Steverson has not done anything for the team just does not make sense. And basing that opinion on selectively taking one guy out of the data set really doesn't make sense.

 

[brett05]

I suggest this. Look Steverson up on the internet and see what the guy's reputation is across baseball. I know what my eyes see regarding some things that are apparent in this year's hitters. None of us know what, if anything Steverson has done specifically as a hitting guru. I just think that the guy is great.




And you've proven he's actually done nothing for the team. You are biased thanks to your man crush. I went at it objectively in search of a difference or not. At best he's no diff. Go ahead and get back to your bias



What in the heck are you talking about? My "bias" My man "crush"? You merely do not see my point. You should but you don't. If you can take Abreau out of the data set, then why not take Connor or Eaton out also? Neither of those guys worked with Steverson either.

To say that Steverson has not done anything for the team just does not make sense. And basing that opinion on selectively taking one guy out of the data set really doesn't make sense.

In this case you miss the point. Its not if he's respected. Its if he's made a difference. The numbers say no. If I am missing something objective please enlighten

 

[The Hawk]

In this case you miss the point. Its not if he's respected. Its if he's made a difference. The numbers say no. If I am missing something objective please enlighten

I really have not a clue what you are talking about. The Sox are hitting for a higher average. They are scoring more runs. Their hitting as a whole is improved, particularly in extra base hits. Someone is doing something right. You still haven't answered my question also about Gillespie and Eaton. You want to take Abreau out of the data set but ignore them. Why?

 

[brett05]

I really have not a clue what you are talking about. The Sox are hitting for a higher average. They are scoring more runs. Their hitting as a whole is improved, particularly in extra base hits. Someone is doing something right. You still haven't answered my question also about Gillespie and Eaton. You want to take Abreau out of the data set but ignore them. Why?

I already agreed with you. Eaton should be taken out