Big mistake benching Trubisky

[msadows]

I'm starting to think that Nagy was pretty certain he wanted to switch to Foles very early in the season at some point. Mitch starting out 2-0 didn't really help towards that but when the offense continued to stall in game 3, Nagy saw his chance and pulled the plug thinking that Foles could read defenses and prove that his offensive scheme is legitimate. As the line and running game then proceeded to crumble, the offense fell further in the quagmire and Nagy is now fully submerged with no where else to go. An immobile, inconsistent QB with a line that can't block beyond the most basic blocking scheme, offensive talent that can't get the separation it needs on short routes and can't get QB protection for long routes. Even if we could roll Mitch back out there, I don't think we can right the ship although at least the defense would have to respect his mobility where as Nick is like a statue back there.

Mitch fits this offensive talent much better. He's capable of extending the play which gives arob/mooney an extra second or two to beat their man.

Foles has been absolute sheit.

It's pretty obvious nagy wanted foles to start from day 1. It's why we made the trade. Pace probably pushed for mitch to get the first shot at things tho, since he still wanted to evaluate him.

What the rightfully evaluated is this fucking offense is inept as shit and does nothing right. Both those dumbasses thought QB was the major issue that didn't make this unit go, but somehow 14 year olds who play madden realize you need a major upgrade all across the offensive line to make things "go".

 

[dbldrew]

I think benching Mitch was the best thing for this team long term. It shows the horrible flaws other then the QB that need to be addressed as well

 

[Zion]

Because the damage is done to him.

1. Why are we making that assumption
2. Why does that matter? We're not contending anyway, Mitch is likely out the door soon and Nagy might be going along with him. It doesn't harm anything to give Mitch more starts...IF you want to kick the treads on a worn out tire again.

 

[abegibronlives]

I'm not going to say he's the best qb. I will say better than Foles right now. Without a o line you need his mobility.

Even bigger problem this team is so mismanaged it's disgusting,

He played his way out of the job.

That's on him.

 

[msadows]

I think benching Mitch was the best thing for this team long term. It shows the horrible flaws other then the QB that need to be addressed as well

Except anyone with a brain knew the faults of this team, and that the main ones weren't at the qb position.

Yes, our qb, if its foles or mitch, is not good. He is, however, more than good enough to win with if given a proper supporting cast. The majority of this board knew that minus a select few, yet somehow nagy/pace decided picking up two former busts and drafting a 6th round tackle was good enough for the OL. Makes sense.

 

[msadows]

He played his way out of the job.

That's on him.

Not really.

Nagy never really wanted him to start this season. It was apparent. Mitch made one boneheaded misread and was benched. Foles has multiples of those a game and there isn't even a discussion on the topic.

Foles has played awful. He would have been benched by now by any sane coach. As bad as mitch is he's better than foles is.

 

[CHIBEAR]

Not really.

Nagy never really wanted him to start this season. It was apparent. Mitch made one boneheaded misread and was benched. Foles has multiples of those a game and there isn't even a discussion on the topic.

Foles has played awful. He would have been benched by now by any sane coach. As bad as mitch is he's better than foles is.

Why would Foles have been benched by now ? buy any sane coach lol .

A sane coach would know his team was trash before Foles got here so why would he then try and blame him for the last 6 weeks ?

Mitch has 44 weeks of bad play with 3 training camps and offseason to go with them .

You don't have to believe Foles is good to know what you are claiming is 100% BS

 

[truthbedamned]

I truly hope Mitch goes on and signs with someone like the Patriots and then goes on to win 5 super bowls. I truly do. Even better sign with the Vikings so he can come kick our ass twice a year.

 

[BearDen]

I truly hope Mitch goes on and signs with someone like the Patriots and then goes on to win 5 super bowls. I truly do. Even better sign with the Vikings so he can come kick our ass twice a year.

He won’t. Sorry.

 

[BearDen]

I'm starting to think that Nagy was pretty certain he wanted to switch to Foles very early in the season at some point. Mitch starting out 2-0 didn't really help towards that but when the offense continued to stall in game 3, Nagy saw his chance and pulled the plug thinking that Foles could read defenses and prove that his offensive scheme is legitimate. As the line and running game then proceeded to crumble, the offense fell further in the quagmire and Nagy is now fully submerged with no where else to go. An immobile, inconsistent QB with a line that can't block beyond the most basic blocking scheme, offensive talent that can't get the separation it needs on short routes and can't get QB protection for long routes. Even if we could roll Mitch back out there, I don't think we can right the ship although at least the defense would have to respect his mobility where as Nick is like a statue back there.

No defense has respected his mobility since 2018, the last time he actually put it to any use.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Not really.

Nagy never really wanted him to start this season. It was apparent. Mitch made one boneheaded misread and was benched. Foles has multiples of those a game and there isn't even a discussion on the topic.

Foles has played awful. He would have been benched by now by any sane coach. As bad as mitch is he's better than foles is.

He was benched cause the offense disappeared for halfs. 2nd half against the Giants and didn't do that great in the first half in Atlanta

Wasn't "one boneheaded mistake"

Not even mentioning 2019

 

[run and shoot]

Ok at this point Mitch doesn't have all those qualities. He's weak on leadership and had tons of time to really learn the playbook inside / out and didn't do it. He should've been a "coach in the field". Teamguy, well depends on how ya define it.

On jay, at one point he had Jeffries, Bennett, Forte and Marshall on offense. Yet he still couldn't win. Can u image what other Qb's ( surrounded with much less talent) coulda done with those 4 on offense? We gotta stop making excuses for jay.

Except when jay came onto our team he had johnny knox and devin hester + a broken oline.

You ruin a young QB by giving him a shit supporting cast early. This isn't an excuse, it's a fact.

My point is, just once, I'd love to see the bears draft a QB high and give him a ton to work with. It always seems like they do their best to put those guys in a bad spot. Jay didn't get Marshall back till his 7th year in the league, by then, the damage was done. You simply don't develop after your 7th year in the nfl.

It's why I think the guys on here who want to trade away Arob are dummies. The next guy need weapons. Mooney, arob, and kmet are a great start. They need to get him an oline too.

I don't want another shit situation for another young QB on this team. Get him weapons, get a strong run game, and watch him blossom. It really aint that hard.

So I wanna start by saying.... I feel your frustration ( lets be clear on that). No I don't wanna see Arob gone. Yep....I like Mooney. Kmet can not have another game where he drops passes in the numbers. Yes....we'd both would like to see that perfect situation where a Qb comes here and all the pieces are in place.

Ok, back to to jay......
Marshall got here in 2012. jay was 29yrs. old. jay came to us as a 3yr, vet from Denver. After having spent time and development under Mike Shanahan. And don't forget Marshall was with jay in Denver. So it wasn't like jay was a raw rookie...right?

Yes ....some felt Knox & Hester were inadequate. To that I would say, what did Qb's like Brady, R. Wilson and D. McNabb have to work with for wr's over their careers? I just never saw that leadership, work ethic and passion for the game in jay...and that goes back to he's days in Denver.

With all that said.....I just want a Qb that mentally brings leadership and a winning attitude. One day, I want us talking about how our Qb brought it... in crunch time....for another WIN?

I wanna be able to come on here and say ' hey Meadows, did ya see that great play our Qb made to win the the game . And you'll proudly say....well what else did ya expect. And I''ll say, yep, he does this all the time' ☺

I think we can agree on that.

 

[Bearfanfromnewjersey]

The problem i have is nagy made pace go out and get his guy who could run his offense. News flash nagy. You have a losing record without mitch!

 

[mecha]

fun fact: Mitch Trubisky was benched.
another fun fact: he's injured (???)
one more fun fact: he's not playing again this season unless Foles dies.

please stop fucking discussing it now.

 

[UK_STALEY]

He won’t. Sorry.

He might! But he’d win those superbowls like Jameis Winston just beat Brady and the Bucs, sat on the fucking bench

 

[abegibronlives]

Not really.

Nagy never really wanted him to start this season. It was apparent. Mitch made one boneheaded misread and was benched. Foles has multiples of those a game and there isn't even a discussion on the topic.

Foles has played awful. He would have been benched by now by any sane coach. As bad as mitch is he's better than foles is.

Foles has been awful.

So was Mitch.

And so....What are we debating here? Which one of our awful quarterbacks is more awful?

Who cares? They suck.

 

[hyatt151]

Except anyone with a brain knew the faults of this team, and that the main ones weren't at the qb position.

Yes, our qb, if its foles or mitch, is not good. He is, however, more than good enough to win with if given a proper supporting cast. The majority of this board knew that minus a select few, yet somehow nagy/pace decided picking up two former busts and drafting a 6th round tackle was good enough for the OL. Makes sense.

If the Supporting cast and the coaching are the biggest problems, why do you constantly give Pace a pass?

 

[mecha]

fun fact: Mitch Trubisky was benched.
another fun fact: he's injured (???)
one more fun fact: he's not playing again this season unless Foles dies.

please stop fucking discussing it now.

this post aged very well. I'm impressed with myself, for real.

 

[ImSure]

tbh, i'm not sure what should have happened. i think no matter which QB is in we're gonna be a bad offense. just too many problems/weaknesses.

 

[mecha]

Trubisky was playing like utter dogshit. we all know after months have passed that this will never a neverending cycle of chicken or egg, I think it's just a round peg in square hole scenario now.

almost every dynamic has been changed and the end product is still the same. so whose fault is it then?