Black Monday

[bears5150]

This is a tuff call first who do you bring in to replace the coach? Then what to do with Fields and the first pick? New coach new QB? Same coach roll with Fields, I cant see Eberflus staying with a new QB. For me a new coach with a new QB would be the path to go.

 

[The Galloping Ghost]

When the team was as bad as it was and they traded away their best players I am willing to give leeway...

The Bears have obviously started to improve. I'd like to see another year instead of starting over unless you get some world beater coach.

To me it parallels Fields. The Bears improved. But how much? They went from worst to...20-25th best? Eberflus looked like a disaster for most of the season as a head coach. You could argue he held the team together amidst a lot of turmoil but also a lot of that was his own fault?

I think it's pretty clear he's a decent defensive coordinator. But his defense still got beat up when facing better offenses.

I don't know. The Bears being the Bears he probably gets another year but I'm also not really buying the "we're close" narrative.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Flus is like healthy bland-tasting soup. I guess it’s ok in that it will feed you and can get you through the day if you don’t have the time to get a proper meal. It just doesn’t inspire any confidence or excitement the way a perfectly-cooked steak would.

I hope they can land Harbaugh. If not, I expect Flus will be back, I am guessing. I suppose that’s ok. He is just so damn bland and boring.

But if they draft a new QB, just once I’d like them to start the whole coaching cycle to coincide with that critical draft pick.

 

[jive]

they're gonna fire the whole coaching staff and if they dont i will personally chain myself to the doors of halas hall until they do

I'll roll some joints for you to help pass the time

 

[onebud34]

Why are people giving him “credit” for this like he overcame some giant obstacle? It was his team that melted down.

It was his team laying an egg Sunday.

Flus is just a dumb coach who’s only solution is “try harder”.

As a fan I find those historic meltdowns inexcusable, he should've been shitcanned after the 2nd one since it came against a divisional opponent

 

[Les Grossman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744357711892857251

This is by far my favorite quote that applies to the current state of the Bears

 

[CTA_employee9]

It's weird, this was only Eberflus's 2nd year with CHI yet it feels like a lot longer than that.

Objectively speaking, it's hard to think the Bears would fire him after only two seasons (one of them being where they gutted the team of talent).

It is hard to imagine this particular ownership firing him I do agree, but to me it seems like the timing of this situation is very unique if you can go out and get a guy like Harbaugh with the assets they have and direction things are moving in. I think serious organizations who operate with tenacity in terms of winning would do what it takes to get Jim Harbaugh in here this week.

I do not think the Bears are an organization that is willing to make tough, bold decisions in order to win though. They are extremely risk adverse in the HC department and Eberflus is a guy that suits the ownership group very well from a personality standpoint. Eberflus just needed to show improvement in the W/L record to be retained. I think he also gets extra McCaskey points for weathering the PR storm from the Alan Williams situation. Sterile public relations is huge with this front office.

 

[bamainatlanta]

This has been a real lame black Monday.

 

[ijustposthere]

I don't want Eberflus either and think he's a bland coach, but no one was winning anything that first season where Poles raped the roster of talent.

They also didn't look good in the slightest. The team this year also looked terrible the first half of the season. They just look like a poorly coached team. It was a bad hire. He wasn't even a very good DC in the first place.

 

[zabavka]

Once the Harbaugh stuff gets settled the rest of the teams will fight for the remaining scraps

 

[Les Grossman]

It is hard to imagine this particular ownership firing him I do agree, but to me it seems like the timing of this situation is very unique if you can go out and get a guy like Harbaugh with the assets they have and direction things are moving in. I think serious organizations who operate with tenacity in terms of winning would do what it takes to get Jim Harbaugh in here this week.

I do not think the Bears are an organization that is willing to make tough, bold decisions in order to win though. They are extremely risk adverse in the HC department and Eberflus is a guy that suits the ownership group very well from a personality standpoint. Eberflus just needed to show improvement in the W/L record to be retained. I think he also gets extra McCaskey points for weathering the PR storm from the Alan Williams situation. Sterile public relations is huge with this front office.

We did this dance a couple of years ago with Harbaugh though. He was being wishy-washy and interviewing with MIN or something. The Harbaugh situation is NOT unique imo. The chance to draft a QB prospect like Williams is unique, however.

 

[CTA_employee9]

We did this dance a couple of years ago with Harbaugh though. He was being wishy-washy and interviewing with MIN or something. The Harbaugh situation is NOT unique imo. The chance to draft a QB prospect like Williams is unique, however.

I agree with the fact that the number one pick is really what sets this offseason apart and why it makes sense to bring in a HC with a definitive offensive vision. The reason why I think Harbaugh is unique for the Bears in some sense - is that he has shown that he can, as a HC, specifically elevate QB play in the NFL - which for the Bears has been a multi-generational issue. They have the opportunity to disable that kryptonite this offseason via the QB and the HC which is huge timing wise.

 

[modo]

What has Harbaugh won?

 

[CTA_employee9]

What has Harbaugh won?

Many football games with offensive touchdowns.

 

[modo]

Many football games with offensive touchdowns.

He has never sealed the deal

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

Why are people giving him “credit” for this like he overcame some giant obstacle? It was his team that melted down.

It was his team laying an egg Sunday.

Flus is just a dumb coach who’s only solution is “try harder”.

It's such a lazy, reductive way of looking at the situation. The reason the Bears won more games this year is because A.) They traded away their two best defensive players in the middle of the season and sat guys down the stretch to lose, and B.) The schedule was MUCH easier this year compared to last year.

Had they made a more concerted effort to win last year, they probably were around a 5 win team, instead of 3. Flash forward a year later, with a much more favorable schedule, they win 7. The jump from 3 to 7 is really not impressive at all when you put it in its proper context. It's even less impressive win you look at the list of quarterbacks they beat.

 

[DavidH]

Not to mention two assistant coaches being fired for being creeps, or the whole Claypool debacle where he was caught lying about what happened.

Throw all that in with the way he started and ended the season against their arch rival, looking completely unprepared and lackadaisical, this decision should have been made a while ago. He's not good at his job, and never was.

Insane that they came out looking like that when trying to put their best foot forward and keep their jobs.

 

[ijustposthere]

I agree but the Bears dug their own hole. If they planned on keeping him, they should have made an announcement weeks ago. Now, if he stays, it’s a prove it year and he will lose any interest from quality assist coaches, especially an OC. This will be like Nagy in 2021. Everybody left and he got shit to replace.

Nagy and lovie for like the last 4-5 years of his tenure. This is the bears MO.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

He has never sealed the deal

Correct. Bears should pass on coaches like Shanahan and Harbaugh who have a history of a lot of success (but no super bowl) to keep Eberflus

 

[jive]

He has never sealed the deal

In some ways, it may not be a bad thing. No coach has ever won a Super Bowl with 2 different teams