Blackhawks are LOSING (money)

[roshinaya]

 
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HaHa, the socialist supporting capitalism within our borders. Too funny.</p></blockquote> 
I don't see how what I said has anything to do with my support or non-support of capitalism. But whatever.

 

[TSD]

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Bill was losing 20 mil per year.  It was clearly true, half full building, half parking, half concessions, no merchandising.  How they are NOW still losing money is assinine. </p>


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Rocky is making up for the 10 previous years of losses.</p>
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Thats the only thing I was thinking is that hes counting all the money they have been in the red to this point, not just year by year.</p>

 

[R K]

He's been doing that since he took over.  No question.</p>

 

[IceHogsFan]

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Exactly, and the Hawks organization is still not in the black because of this, therefor still technically LOSING money. The article makes this pretty clear. I don't get the outrage about this. Yes, the Hawks are probably raking in the cash now, but it was in a big hole before so it will take time before it makes a PROFIT, likely after next season as the article states.</p>
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HaHa, the socialist supporting capitalism within our borders. Too funny.</p>
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HaHa!  The poster who can only see things in black & white.</p>
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I don't see how what I said has anything to do with my support or non-support of capitalism. But whatever.</p>
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 The sensitivity in here is underwhelming.............</p>

 

[mikita's helmet]

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 The sensitivity in here is underwhelming.............</p>
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the trolling overwhelming...</p>

 

[R K]

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 The sensitivity in here is underwhelming.............</p>
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Lets call it like you do.  You were trolling, which you say you never do.  Then when you get called out on it you either cry or go hide.</p>


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There was no need for that comment other than to troll him.  I know, I know you can't possibly do that, but yet did.</p>

 

[R K]

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the trolling overwhelming...</p>
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It's ok when he does it because his shit don't stink.  All of ours does.</p>


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Again keep your Political Bullshit in the Political Bullshit Forum.  Where it belongs....</p>

 

[IceHogsFan]

Actually my first comment was spot on. Political undertones sure but was totally relevant to the discussion.</p>

 

[mikita's helmet]

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Actually my first comment was spot on. Political undertones sure but was totally relevant to the discussion.</p>
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If you believe that to be the case then your insight is limited, your judgment lacking. </p>

 

[R K]

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Actually my first comment was spot on. Political undertones sure but was totally relevant to the discussion.</p>
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If you really believe that someone hit you on the head at an early age.  Your comment to Rosh had NOTHING to do with this thread.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

poor poor Wirtz family... I can't imagine how much they are going to lose now...</p>

 

[IceHogsFan]

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poor poor Wirtz family... I can't imagine how much they are going to lose now...</p>
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in weight?</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

There is a great freedom removing any decision the Wirtz make no longer having any significance to me in the enjoyment of a favorite of hobbies.</p>


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Charge more... for everything. Make those beers 15$ a pop and the cheapest seat in the house 60$.</p>


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I think I miss the ole man... Sure he may have made poor and unpopular decisions, but at least his unpopular decisions have some basis in loyalty to fans (even if misguided) and what he wanted to do with the Hawks that was not directly linked to "profits".</p>


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Which seems to be the primary drive of Rocky. But hey, its his company and he can do what he wants.</p>


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Just feels pretty damn nice to not care what he does with his business.</p>

 

[Maiden]

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There is a great freedom removing any decision the Wirtz make no longer having any significance to me in the enjoyment of a favorite of hobbies.</p>


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Charge more... for everything. Make those beers 15$ a pop and the cheapest seat in the house 60$.</p>


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<span style="font-size:18px;">I think I miss the ole man</span>... Sure he may have made poor and unpopular decisions, but at least his unpopular decisions have some basis in loyalty to fans (even if misguided) and what he wanted to do with the Hawks that was not directly linked to "profits".</p>


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Which seems to be the primary drive of Rocky. But hey, its his company and he can do what he wants.</p>


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Just feels pretty damn nice to not care what he does with his business.</p>
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RK and I have said this for many years.............he was stubborn to a fault but in his mind his "season reservationist's (love that term)" meant more to him than anything. He was behind the times on home TV but he gave his word to his father at his death bed he would NEVER televise home games and he kept his word.</p>

 

[R K]

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RK and I have said this for many years.............he was stubborn to a fault but in his mind his "season reservationist's (love that term)" meant more to him than anything. He was behind the times on home TV but he gave his word to his father at his death bed he would NEVER televise home games and he kept his word.</p>
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Not many understand this sadly.  They just see the Hawks not on TV as the tell all.  They missed all the very good teams in the 80's and early 90's, and don't realize he was responsible for the team in 2010.  Now would he have continued to spend money by retaining all these super stars spending to the cap, I can't answer that.  I can answer he was for sure building a winner and these two guys reaped the rewards for someone elses work.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

The hobbit family is losing money?  Maybe they should make a new movie.</p>

 

[R K]

Hobbit as in how?</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Hobbit as in how?</p>
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Maybe I should have said Goblin:</p>


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[The Count Dante]

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Not many understand this sadly.  They just see the Hawks not on TV as the tell all.  They missed all the very good teams in the 80's and early 90's, and don't realize he was responsible for the team in 2010.  Now would he have continued to spend money by retaining all these super stars spending to the cap, I can't answer that.  I can answer he was for sure building a winner and these two guys reaped the rewards for someone elses work.</p>
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It just felt to me that even if you didnt agree with the Ole Man, everything he did was out of his enjoyment of the sport and his team. It was never about maximizing a profit. I only had seats close to his death but when I got mine, people laughed at me. My first years of STH there was SO many empty seats. Never bothered me, I had MY seats.</p>


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I say that as that is the proof to me that the Ole Man didnt care about the revenue the Hawks made or didnt make. Getting my season tickets was one of my favorite days in the whole of life to date for many more reasons than seeing the beloved Hawks that the prophet JR made me enjoy.</p>


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Rocky and Regime have turned tickets into a status symbol. I remember years back, college student posters here and original boards were SO stoked to go catch a game. For 8$ bucks and an ID, you got to see the Hawks in a place where there really is no bad seat.</p>


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Like clockwork, those same college kids would work their way down to my seats, where I got to share my own fandom, buying all the kids beers while we whooped and hollered and talked about hockey and Hawks. We were all just stoked to be there. I was happy to share the wealth.</p>


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Now with the Cub-i-fication of the Hawks, I will never pay for a Hawks game again. I hate to sound like one of those "you kids get off my lawn" old farts, but yes... I miss the Ole Man.</p>

 

[Maiden]

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It just felt to me that even if you didnt agree with the Ole Man, everything he did was out of his enjoyment of the sport and his team. It was never about maximizing a profit. I only had seats close to his death but when I got mine, people laughed at me. My first years of STH there was SO many empty seats. Never bothered me, I had MY seats.</p>


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I say that as that is the proof to me that the Ole Man didnt care about the revenue the Hawks made or didnt make. Getting my season tickets was one of my favorite days in the whole of life to date for many more reasons than seeing the beloved Hawks that the prophet JR made me enjoy.</p>


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Rocky and Regime have turned tickets into a status symbol. I remember years back, college student posters here and original boards were SO stoked to go catch a game. For 8$ bucks and an ID, you got to see the Hawks in a place where there really is no bad seat.</p>


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Like clockwork, those same college kids would work their way down to my seats, where I got to share my own fandom, buying all the kids beers while we whooped and hollered and talked about hockey and Hawks. We were all just stoked to be there. I was happy to share the wealth.</p>


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Now with the Cub-i-fication of the Hawks, I will never pay for a Hawks game again. I hate to sound like one of those "you kids get off my lawn" old farts, but yes... I miss the Ole Man.</p>
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This is dead nuts on. Well played my friend.</p>