Bruins @ Blackhawks IGT 2/22 @ 2:30 p.m.

[Chief Walking Stick]

That pizza was good. Time to get drunk.

 

[DMelt36]

That pizza was good. Time to get drunk.

opcorn:

 

[Popinski Soda]

When we're getting our ass kicked Chelsea Dagger should NOT be played.

It shouldn't be playing at all. It sounds like the fans are dancing around and making drooling Special person noises.

It wore out its welcome a long, long time ago. The players must hate it lol.

I'm not too worried. Sometimes losses like this really kick shit in gear for both the players, coaches and management. Let's see how they respond in the next game, wouldn't be surprised if they come out flying.


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I'm not either, even if it seems like we've been saying this for awhile now...

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I mean, I'll get worried when the Hawks have a long homestand and go under .500

 

[Popinski Soda]

You gotta give teams different looks before the playoffs. Make 'em think we're incompetent, then we strike.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

I'd still like to see Stan working the phones to try and add another defensemen who can actually play on one of our pairings.


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[BlackHawkPaul]

I'd still like to see Stan working the phones to try and add another defensemen who can actually play on one of our pairings.


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Examples? Who do you give up?

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Andrej Sekera or Tim Gleason from Carolina, Jordan Leopold in Columbus, Bryce Salvador and Mark Fraser in New Jersey and Jeff Petry from Edmonton.

Giving up wise, well, we have some prospects still in the minors that might interest some of these teams that are rebuilding. Hell, even a 2nd-3rd rounder with a lower end prospect might get one of the guys above.

 

[Hawkins]

Will the real Blackhawks team please stand up? Also, I cannot believe Crawford's gaffe on Friday! All he did was dump in the puck? WTF? I am new to this thread, I was born and raised in Chicago. I have memories of listening to Hawks playoff games with a one bud earphone plugged into a tiny B&W TV. A lot of frustration back then with Finals against Canadiens (Ken Dryden), and the x%$##** Bruins, back when Phil Esposito was their power guy and his brother Tony was our goalie!

That really sucked, especially Game 7s.

 

[DMelt36]

Will the real Blackhawks team please stand up? Also, I cannot believe Crawford's gaffe on Friday! All he did was dump in the puck? WTF? I am new to this thread, I was born and raised in Chicago. I have memories of listening to Hawks playoff games with a one bud earphone plugged into a tiny B&W TV. A lot of frustration back then with Finals against Canadiens (Ken Dryden), and the x%$##** Bruins, back when Phil Esposito was their power guy and his brother Tony was our goalie!

That really sucked, especially Game 7s.

Welcome aboard!

 

[Pez68]

Petry is a fucking pylon. No thanks on Gleason either, who looks about as slow and useless as Rozsival most nights. He's a -18, which is the worst on Carolina. Same story with Salvador. At 39, he's done. Leopold would be an upgrade over any of the 3 assholes playing the 5/6 most nights, as would Fraser and Sekera. I'm not sure they are going to be worth what they are going to demand though...

This team isn't contending with the bottom six performing at their current level anyways. They are pretty much all fucking useless. At this point, I'd be fine if they got rid of 2/3 of them after this season. Carcillo with 8 points, Smith with 9 points, Kruger with 13 points, Shaw with 15, Bickell with 24. This is the worst forward depth the Hawks have had in years. They're also the least physical group. It's pretty much 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 bad as far as production is concerned. The Hawks might have one forward in the bottom six that puts up more than 20 points this season... They have been fucking pathetic. When Marian Hossa is the THIRD leading hitter on your team, you have some fucking problems.

I don't think it makes sense moving anything significant for a 5/6 this season. I don't think that's going to be the difference between this team being a favorite for the cup or just a contender.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Petry is a fucking pylon. No thanks on Gleason either, who looks about as slow and useless as Rozsival most nights. He's a -18, which is the worst on Carolina. Same story with Salvador. At 39, he's done. Leopold would be an upgrade over any of the 3 assholes playing the 5/6 most nights, as would Fraser and Sekera. I'm not sure they are going to be worth what they are going to demand though...

This team isn't contending with the bottom six performing at their current level anyways. They are pretty much all fucking useless. At this point, I'd be fine if they got rid of 2/3 of them after this season. Carcillo with 8 points, Smith with 9 points, Kruger with 13 points, Shaw with 15, Bickell with 24. This is the worst forward depth the Hawks have had in years. They're also the least physical group. It's pretty much 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 bad as far as production is concerned. The Hawks might have one forward in the bottom six that puts up more than 20 points this season... They have been fucking pathetic. When Marian Hossa is the THIRD leading hitter on your team, you have some fucking problems.


I don't think it makes sense moving anything significant for a 5/6 this season. I don't think that's going to be the difference between this team being a favorite for the cup or just a contender.

It's the same forward depth the Hawks had last year who were one goal from winning the cup.


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[Pez68]

It's the same depth, except every one of those players has regressed in all aspects of their game. They're all basically producing at Brandon Bollig levels. That ain't gonna fucking cut it.

The bottom six is too slow to establish an aggressive forecheck and play dump and chase, and too small to grind the other team down, establish possession in the offensive zone, or inflict some pain on the opposing defense with finished checks. They all play a soft, defensive, sit back and pokecheck game. This team is two lines deep.

 

[Pez68]

And just to pile on Shaw, since he's been a worthless piece of shit this season who has contributed pretty much nothing but stupid penalties... He's currently playing almost 3 minutes a game on the PP, which is FOURTH on the team for forwards. Sixth overall. He has 3 fucking PP points to show for it, and 15 total points. Bravo! :clap::clap:

 

[FlyChicaga]

I didn't see this game (recorded it, not going to bother), but I've watched every game since Christmas. It seems the entire team, including our skilled players, are making huge mental mistakes. I believe the loss of Clint Reif right before Christmas may be causing a huge mental breakdown with our team. Clint died on December 21st. The day Clint's death was announced, the team played with a fire we haven't seen since. The 4-0 ass-kicking of Toronto was outstanding. Then December 23rd, two days later (for it all to settle in), the Hawks get *****-slapped by Winnipeg 5-1. Awful game. Since December 21st, the team is 13-11-3, including the two aforementioned games.

Let's face it, we're talking about young guys. Many (most) of the guys on this team are under 25 years old. Many likely have never had someone so close to them commit suicide so suddenly, leaving behind their family. I'm not saying these guys are totally losing it, but I think this is mentally affecting them in a way that's making them mentally exhausted. I think it can explain the mental mistakes and lack of focus.

I'm only afraid if this is the case, it will continue to snowball unless something drastic changes it's course. Otherwise we may have to accept this season as a loss, and we'll have to pick up the pieces next year when the roster gets reshuffled.

 

[Hawkins]

It's the same depth, except every one of those players has regressed in all aspects of their game. They're all basically producing at Brandon Bollig levels. That ain't gonna fucking cut it.

The bottom six is too slow to establish an aggressive forecheck and play dump and chase, and too small to grind the other team down, establish possession in the offensive zone, or inflict some pain on the opposing defense with finished checks. They all play a soft, defensive, sit back and pokecheck game. This team is two lines deep.

I have to agree with you on several levels. All the talking heads on keep raving about the Hawk's depth, blah, blah, blah. Then as soon as the Kings or anyone else runs off a few wins suddenly they are going to revving up for "a run at the playoffs." The Preds, however, are a bit scary. Renne is lights out in goal. We'll have to see if come playoff time, they are for real. Hawks seem to have their number this year, but.....

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I have to agree with you on several levels. All the talking heads on keep raving about the Hawk's depth, blah, blah, blah. Then as soon as the Kings or anyone else runs off a few wins suddenly they are going to revving up for "a run at the playoffs." The Preds, however, are a bit scary. Renne is lights out in goal. We'll have to see if come playoff time, they are for real. Hawks seem to have their number this year, but.....

Welcome Hawkins!

How about trading Bickell/Shaw/Hartman/TT and a 1st for Karlsson?

 

[Pez68]

I didn't see this game (recorded it, not going to bother), but I've watched every game since Christmas. It seems the entire team, including our skilled players, are making huge mental mistakes. I believe the loss of Clint Reif right before Christmas may be causing a huge mental breakdown with our team. Clint died on December 21st. The day Clint's death was announced, the team played with a fire we haven't seen since. The 4-0 ass-kicking of Toronto was outstanding. Then December 23rd, two days later (for it all to settle in), the Hawks get *****-slapped by Winnipeg 5-1. Awful game. Since December 21st, the team is 13-11-3, including the two aforementioned games.

Let's face it, we're talking about young guys. Many (most) of the guys on this team are under 25 years old. Many likely have never had someone so close to them commit suicide so suddenly, leaving behind their family. I'm not saying these guys are totally losing it, but I think this is mentally affecting them in a way that's making them mentally exhausted. I think it can explain the mental mistakes and lack of focus.

I'm only afraid if this is the case, it will continue to snowball unless something drastic changes it's course. Otherwise we may have to accept this season as a loss, and we'll have to pick up the pieces next year when the roster gets reshuffled.

I think you're reaching quite a bit...

 

[Hawkins]

Hawkins

Hello everyone,

I am new to this site. I was born and raised in Chicago. I used to listen to old Hawks game on a 12" B@W TV, with a one bud earphone. Playoff Games with Hull and Makita against the Canadiens or Bruins. Boston's Phil Esposito and brother Tony playing goal for our side. Freakin' Ken Dryden..........:X Will the real Hawks please stand up? You can say you are not worried yet, like everyone else does, but we're running out of games.

That's it for the moment. I still can't get over Crawford's gaffe on Friday. On a dump in? Nothing but open ice between him and a puck that's bouncing toward him. Straight up the gut. It's almost like he just watched it roll on into the goal, then he looks so crestfallen as he watches the replay, like "what happened"? Today, he's pulled before the game's mid way point. WTF? He has a stick does he not?

 

[CRM 114]

I think you're reaching quite a bit...

You can't ignore the timing of the whole thing. Since he died, the girls have played like shit. I'm sure that's not the only reason but I think it could be apart of it.