BULLS VS BUCKS

[RC_Skinny22]

My problem is that Miller is our center. You really want your center to shoot the last shot from almost behind the 3pt line? Why can´t we create this shot for a Salmons, or a Deng?

 

[TheStig]

Bullseye wrote:

My problem is that Miller is our center. You really want your center to shoot the last shot from almost behind the 3pt line? Why can´t we create this shot for a Salmons, or a Deng?

Almost behind the three point line? He was a couple of steps inside the three point line and Miller has three point range anyway. the last shot was created for Rose, they just doubled him off the pick. If anything, it should have just been a straight iso for rose but they likely would have doubled him anyway. So it would have likely lead to the same type of shot. Not sure why you'd want to run a shot for Deng, when have you ever seen him hit a game winner?

 

[RC_Skinny22]

The spot Miller shot is exactly the one where Deng is nearly automatic this season. That was one step inside the three point line.

I think Rose had two better opportunities:

a) make one step less, stop and shoot.

or

b) make one step more and kick out the ball to Salmons who is free then on the left wing.

 

[TheStig]

Bullseye wrote:

The spot Miller shot is exactly the one where Deng is nearly automatic this season. That was one step inside the three point line.

I think Rose had two better opportunities:

a) make one step less, stop and shoot.

or

b) make one step more and kick out the ball to Salmons who is free then on the left wing.

A would have been a twice contested shot versus a open jumper.

B I didn't see Salmon's open on the play and the only defender to leave his man was bogut. So I don't think a would have led to more than another contested shot.

Again, statistically, Rose made the best play available, that led to the only open oppurtunity. You can't really fault him for that.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

I don´t blame Derrick for that. It was a smart play no doubt.

I´m totally ok with that play if you replace Miller by Deng, Salmons or even Pargo.

Vinny is the guy who has to coach a system for these situations. But oooh he had no timeout again! -.-

 

[TheStig]

Bullseye wrote:

I don´t blame Derrick for that. It was a smart play no doubt.

I´m totally ok with that play if you replace Miller by Deng, Salmons or even Pargo.

Vinny is the guy who has to coach a system for these situations. But oooh he had no timeout again! -.-

You want one of those guys to play C? Again, you can't really fault a play that results in an open shoot for a good shooter. What happens if Deng or Salmons or Pargo misses that shot? There is no guarantee any of them make it and they are all about equal shooters. I really want to see your suggested Pargo pick n roll? Plus it wasn't a step in the three point line, it was a step off the free throw elbow. Look at the replays. No one was open except miller and it was a makable shot.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

I don´t want one of these guys to play C, I just want to see a shooter shooting the last ball. Not our C. Our C should be in the zone for a possible tip in. Why did Miller have to set the pick for Rose? Why can´t a wing player make this?

 

[Shakes]

Miller IS a shooter. God knows he's not good for that much else at this stage of his career.

 

[TheStig]

Bullseye wrote:

I don´t want one of these guys to play C, I just want to see a shooter shooting the last ball. Not our C. Our C should be in the zone for a possible tip in. Why did Miller have to set the pick for Rose? Why can´t a wing player make this?

The reason to have Miller set the pick was to get a switch and a mismatch. If you run a pic and roll between two smaller players than they just switch and nothing happens. Miller was also in there too spread the floor and draw out the other big. As much as I like Noah, he doesn't stretch the floor and can't run a goo pick and roll. So again, I fail to see what was done wrong, we got an open shot in the last second, that is more than you can hope for. Just because we didn't make the shot doesn't make it a bad play.

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

It's absolutely unfair to say Rose is a better player because he scored more than Jennings did in a meaningless December game.

First of all (Barkley impression - next time you watch TNT, eat one Oreo for everytime he says "First of All" and you'll go through an entire box in 5 minutes), this is Jenning's first major road trip.

Of course he's going to struggle. 450 days ago he was Vinnie Barbarino! The dude was in High School.

Also, Rose is in his second-year and has more NBA experience. He's been on a dozen road trips by now at least. When you're still young and your game is still at its peak, sometimes experience factors just a little bit.

Rose is going to be an All-Star many times in this league but something tells me that when Jennings is where Rose is at in his career (games played), he'll be much better.

When Jordan was 40 playing for the Wizards and they played the Lakers was it fair when the sports announcers and guys on Sports Center were going nuts saying Kobe dominated Jordan? He was half his age for crying out loud!

 

[clonetrooper264]

Miller had an open shot and he missed. There's really not much more to it than that. Maybe if it was Deng running the pick and roll and he ends up in the same situation then MAYBE he would have made that shot because he's a far better midrange shooter than Miller IMO. However, Deng isn't clutch in any way, so that might've failed too. You can't fault Rose though, that was the smart play, give it to Miller, who is a good midrange shooter in his own right, for a wide open shot.

 

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Frank Breakfast-Styleham wrote:

It's absolutely unfair to say Rose is a better player because he scored more than Jennings did in a meaningless December game.

First of all (Barkley impression - next time you watch TNT, eat one Oreo for everytime he says "First of All" and you'll go through an entire box in 5 minutes), this is Jenning's first major road trip.

Of course he's going to struggle. 450 days ago he was Vinnie Barbarino! The dude was in High School.

Also, Rose is in his second-year and has more NBA experience. He's been on a dozen road trips by now at least. When you're still young and your game is still at its peak, sometimes experience factors just a little bit.

Rose is going to be an All-Star many times in this league but something tells me that when Jennings is where Rose is at in his career (games played), he'll be much better.

When Jordan was 40 playing for the Wizards and they played the Lakers was it fair when the sports announcers and guys on Sports Center were going nuts saying Kobe dominated Jordan? He was half his age for crying out loud!

It's not like Rose had a great game either. He ended up shooting like 51.8 TS% for the game, which isn't that great. He just had that great stretch where he scored like 3 straight buckets on Jennings. But after that, Rose started forcing up bad shots, causing his efficiency to drop.