BullsByTheHorns on the Gordon/Hinrich debate

[dougthonus]

Rerisen wrote:

Doug if we were to bring Gordon back and reanalyze the team at the trade deadline, would it be so much harder to move Kirk (or someone) then vs the offseason?

Or maybe if the team is playing great (top 4 seed) you don't move anyone and pay the tax, but probably not going to happen regardless.

I don't think you'll be able to get under the tax at the deadline. Too many franchise are going to be too hurt for cash.

 

[Ralphb07]

I see the Pistons offering BG 10-12 mil. I see the Pistons landing Boozer and BG this offseason

 

[wjb1492]

Hendu0520 wrote:

I don't know about the top 36 or anything maybe that just proves that there aren't a lot of good shooters this year. I don't know anyone who ever said they wanna be on the top 36 list though. Oh and Kirk hasn't ever even broke that top 36 in shooting, am I the only one disapointed in that? I mean the three ball ok, but really why does it drop? Also if Ben is gone more defenders will be on Kirk and it might drop even more. I don't know but he has never been a top shooter in this league and I think he should be I don't see why not.

So you're just really mad that Kirk isn't an elite shooter?

You keep talking like a guard is either a great shooter or he sucks - no middle ground. I don't see it that way. He shot above average overall this season and was great from 3, in comparison to other NBA guards. That gets to "good" for me. So call it semantics if you want - from where I sit, it looks like you're saying Ben is a good shooter and Kirk is a bad one. IMO, Ben is a great shooter and Kirk is a good shooter.

I don't see any realistic argument that Kirks' shot is currently "lost," but then I'm not defining "good" as requiring that you be in the top 20% of all NBA guards.

 

[TheStig]

Ralphb07 wrote:

I see the Pistons offering BG 10-12 mil. I see the Pistons landing Boozer and BG this offseason

Why would they want BG when they just gave Rip an extension?

 

[charity stripe]

BG to the Pistons make little sense to me. They like stuckey, bynum, and Rip. How is it that they would be willing to give BG 10+ million when they need to pay a big man, and a backup SF. Whoever their big man is, Boozer, Milsap, or other, how can they afford both players?

Sam Smith and KC Johnson seem to mention this every week, but no Detroit writer has even talked about it.

 

[Diddy1122]

Ben either signs a big deal with the Bulls in 10mill range, which is a remote possibility, does a sign and trade, which is more likely, or signs on with a contender around the MLE for 3 years. I would love to see him go to Houston, because all they need is a great 3pt shooter like BG and they will contend for a title. Hell they could even do it this season without him.

 

[Ralphb07]

charity stripe wrote:

BG to the Pistons make little sense to me. They like stuckey, bynum, and Rip. How is it that they would be willing to give BG 10+ million when they need to pay a big man, and a backup SF. Whoever their big man is, Boozer, Milsap, or other, how can they afford both players?

Sam Smith and KC Johnson seem to mention this every week, but no Detroit writer has even talked about it.

My brother in law is a big time Piston fan and throughout the season that was the talk in the papers. It was Dumars wanting to remake the trio they had while he was playing. Talk has been Boozer and Gordon. Don't forget RIP is going to be 31 next year so they could be using Gordon in that role and d replace RIP with him in 2 years

 

[charity stripe]

Ralphb07 wrote:

charity stripe wrote:

BG to the Pistons make little sense to me. They like stuckey, bynum, and Rip. How is it that they would be willing to give BG 10+ million when they need to pay a big man, and a backup SF. Whoever their big man is, Boozer, Milsap, or other, how can they afford both players?

Sam Smith and KC Johnson seem to mention this every week, but no Detroit writer has even talked about it.

My brother in law is a big time Piston fan and throughout the season that was the talk in the papers. It was Dumars wanting to remake the trio they had while he was playing. Talk has been Boozer and Gordon. Don't forget RIP is going to be 31 next year so they could be using Gordon in that role and d replace RIP with him in 2 years

But if they land Boozer and BG, they still a problem in the frontcourt. They would have Boozer, Kwame, and Amir Johnson and Maxiell. 1 good player and 3 bench scrubs. Plus, what about the hole at backup SF? Will they do a sign and trade with Utah or Chicago? I don't see that.

 

[TheStig]

Ralphb07 wrote:

charity stripe wrote:

BG to the Pistons make little sense to me. They like stuckey, bynum, and Rip. How is it that they would be willing to give BG 10+ million when they need to pay a big man, and a backup SF. Whoever their big man is, Boozer, Milsap, or other, how can they afford both players?

Sam Smith and KC Johnson seem to mention this every week, but no Detroit writer has even talked about it.

My brother in law is a big time Piston fan and throughout the season that was the talk in the papers. It was Dumars wanting to remake the trio they had while he was playing. Talk has been Boozer and Gordon. Don't forget RIP is going to be 31 next year so they could be using Gordon in that role and d replace RIP with him in 2 years

He Just signed a three year extension right when Billups was traded.