Caleb vs Lions QB School

[DefNextYear]

Wonder how long it will take a good coach to fix that?

Tim Jenkins said a couple weeks. I think he actually said 3 weeks, and it could even be fixed during the season if they wanted to. He said it’s the easiest thing to fix. Caleb’s biomechanics are excellent and that would actually be very difficult to fix. Justin had biomechanic issues.

Coincidentally (or maybe not coincidentally?), he said Ben Johnson has done wonders with Goff’s.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

I’d rather “waste” money on booze to share with friends and family than waste my time subscribing to QB School and PFF among others.

Guys, you are both wasting your money on stupid shit. Why do you even have to argue about which is dumber?

I’m sure you waste your money on “stupid shit” as well. Everyone has hobbies.

 

[Nads786]

Tim Jenkins said a couple weeks. I think he actually said 3 weeks, and it could even be fixed during the season if they wanted to. He said it’s the easiest thing to fix. Caleb’s biomechanics are excellent and that would actually be very difficult to fix. Justin had biomechanic issues.

Coincidentally (or maybe not coincidentally?), he said Ben Johnson has done wonders with Goff’s.

You have an article on BJ working on Goff? Goff seems way more accurate this year than in the past.

 

[DefNextYear]

You have an article on BJ working on Goff? Goff seems way more accurate this year than in the past.

No I don’t. Maybe my post was misleading, but Tim Jenkins mentioned him specifically and said Goff’s footwork has really improved under Ben Johnson.

Edit: might’ve been this interview

 

[msadows]

Don't think it is on YouTube yet. I am not poor like @msadows who wastes what little money he has on booze so I subscribe to QB School and PFF among others.

You need a new hobby if you are wasting this much cash and time on football bro

 

[msadows]

I’m sure you waste your money on “stupid shit” as well. Everyone has hobbies.

So a "hobby" now is paying 100's a year for access to fictional grades so he can argue/vortex with posters on CCS with them?

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

So a "hobby" now is paying 100's a year for access to fictional grades so he can argue/vortex with posters on CCS with them?

To Remy yes that’s a hobby. Do I think it’s dumb, I sure do. But I’m sure others think my bourbon collection is dumb as well. Difference between us is I don’t go to bourbon forums and pretend to always be right.

 

[Montucky]

You guys didn’t learn your lesson from Fields? These guys are hucksters, peddling baseless hype for your dollars.

The guy who led the offense who put up the lowest point total of any team league wide this entire regular season, and did it against the fucking Patriots no less, is ass. A team on a six game losing streak is ass. There is no hope, you are setting yourselves up for colossal disappointment which honestly tbh ngl fuggin hilarious that you don’t see the pattern.

 

[remydat]

Who the **** watches a 2 hours of that shit?

Had it playing while I reviewed Financials.

I’d rather “waste” money on booze to share with friends and family than waste my time subscribing to QB School and PFF among others. You literally wasted your time breaking down a Bears video.

I don't drink.

 

[remydat]

Tim Jenkins said a couple weeks. I think he actually said 3 weeks, and it could even be fixed during the season if they wanted to. He said it’s the easiest thing to fix. Caleb’s biomechanics are excellent and that would actually be very difficult to fix. Justin had biomechanic issues.

Coincidentally (or maybe not coincidentally?), he said Ben Johnson has done wonders with Goff’s.

Think he is overselling it. Caleb already has good mechanics on a lot of throws. It is the consistency that is the issue. So not really a question of him not knowing or needing to be taught. More a question of how many practice and live reps does it take for it to become natural all the time or is it one where he will just never be consistent ala Cutler.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

You need a new hobby if you are wasting this much cash and time on football bro

LOL. We’re Bears fans. We ALL need a new hobby

 

[remydat]

You need a new hobby if you are wasting this much cash and time on football bro

Sir this message board is to discuss football which is what I do. Your entire hobby on here is to **** about the fact I subscribe to PFF in virtually every interaction we have on here.

So a "hobby" now is paying 100's a year for access to fictional grades so he can argue/vortex with posters on CCS with them?

Much better hobby than coming on to CCS to **** about PFF and what others do with their money. When did you become such a miserable ****? Did Trubisky failing and the booze break you?

 

[remydat]

To Remy yes that’s a hobby. Do I think it’s dumb, I sure do. But I’m sure others think my bourbon collection is dumb as well. Difference between us is I don’t go to bourbon forums and pretend to always be right.

No actually the difference is I don't go to bourbon forums to **** and cry about posters having hobbies related to bourbon as it would be fucking stupid to do so given it's a bourbon forum.

 

[remydat]

What did he say about Caleb there? I assume he had to also lay into him for taking so long?

No he was more pissed at how long it took Kmet and Moore to get lined up and blamed that for why it took so long.

Also I don't think he knows Caleb changed the play. He was complaining about the play call and why not run something to get 5-10 yards but doesn't attribute it to Caleb as again don't think he knows Caleb changed the play.

What was also interesting on that play is Odunze turning inside and then having to turn back outside caused him to slow down and straighten the route. If he turns outside from the start and stays in stride he probably catches that ball for a TD. If you watch the end zone angle of that play you will see clear how Odunze turning inside first causes him to not be able to catch up to the ball.

 

[DaaBears]

Bump, found this entertaining

 

[DefNextYear]

Think he is overselling it. Caleb already has good mechanics on a lot of throws. It is the consistency that is the issue. So not really a question of him not knowing or needing to be taught. More a question of how many practice and live reps does it take for it to become natural all the time or is it one where he will just never be consistent ala Cutler.

You could be right, though I wouldn’t know. He did comment a lot on it though. He speculates that Caleb probably never needed it at any level before cause his talent level and it wouldn’t pay off to invest there vs elsewhere. Caleb was never forced to play in structure to succeed. He discussed this part specifically cause he was asked why Riley wouldn’t have taught it.

I do tend to believe 3 weeks is an ambitious for permanent change in anything for high level performance. Probably 3 weeks to instill it and then needs months of enforcement and correction. But again, I wouldn’t know.

 

[remydat]

You could be right, though I wouldn’t know. He did comment a lot on it though. He speculates that Caleb probably never needed it at any level before cause his talent level and it wouldn’t pay off to invest there vs elsewhere. Caleb was never forced to play in structure to succeed. He discussed this part specifically cause he was asked why Riley wouldn’t have taught it.

I do tend to believe 3 weeks is an ambitious for permanent change in anything for high level performance. Probably 3 weeks to instill it and then needs months of enforcement and correction. But again, I wouldn’t know.

I am saying Bears would have covered it in camp as offense is predicted on your feet telling you when to throw. I think because he can throw off platform well he doesn't prioritize it as much as he should.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

No actually the difference is I don't go to bourbon forums to **** and cry about posters having hobbies related to bourbon as it would be fucking stupid to do so given it's a bourbon forum.

Remy, shut up already.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

1. Like's Brown's playcalling much better than Waldron's but still doesn't like some of the decisions on which receivers run which routes.

2. Still hates Moore's effort on a lot of plays and Allen is just too slow a lot of times. However loved Moore on the TD and that double move on Allen's 2nd TD. Just wished they could flash that more often.

3. Caleb was just terrible accuracy and decision making wise which is the main reason the O sucked in the first half. Was better the 2nd half but he called that miss to Moore at the end Caleb's worse throw of the year and just a game losing throw. Said as much as he hates Moore's effort he understands why Moore just frustrated. You just can't miss layup like that. A lot of his inaccuracy is footwork related. Too much extra hitches or steps.

4. Caleb's decision making was also poor at times. JT's exact quotes was "Caleb just doesn't understand the value of throwing on time." Just too many instances of him staring down open guys underneath but closing not to throw.

5. Kmet was absolutely ass this game. His blocking was ass checks and JT said for all the interviews Kmet does someone should ask him how he could be so stupid a player to get called for multiple pick play penalties.

6. Also talked about how there are still constant execution players and how it is just unacceptable from players. Basically said Borom should be ashamed of himself on that sack at the end and that doesn't matter if he is 3rd or 4th string you can't do that. JT said he could have blocked that play better than Borom it was so bad. Basically said he doesn't know what Brown can do with so much players making basic dumb mistakes.

7. Was dumbfounded about WTF Flus was thinking on that last play. Never seen anything like it going back to Pee Wee football.

This shit reeks of a slightly better version of Justin Fields.

 

[bamainatlanta]

This shit reeks of a slightly better version of Justin Fields.

While I dont disagree, Fields would have turtled after that 1st Half and likely not have bounced back in the 2nd Half.
Williams will do a 180 from half to half--and its usually never a good 1st half followed up by a bad 2nd half. Its always Caleb looking like another Bears bust but then looking like a franchise QB later in the game.

On another note, Odunze cant run a route worth a shit right now. He's always running into coverage instead of away from coverage.