Caleb's the Best...Drakes the Worst?

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WCG: Fact Check - Caleb and other QB prospects versus Top 25 teams




The Gay4Maye bandwagon just lost a wagon wheel....

 

[bamainatlanta]

Aaron Rodgers…played in zero big games in college
Mahomes…played in zero big games in college
Josh Allen…didn’t play division 1 big games
Brett Favre…zero big games


Tebow../ many big games
Mac Jones… ditto
Lawrence…same
Winston…same
Mariota…same

Playing in big games in college has zero fucking correlation to NFL success. What a stupid article to post.

 

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Aaron Rodgers…played in zero big games in college
Mahomes…played in zero big games in college
Josh Allen…didn’t play division 1 big games
Brett Favre…zero big games


Tebow../ many big games
Mac Jones… ditto
Lawrence…same
Winston…same
Mariota…same

Playing in big games in college has zero fucking correlation to NFL success. What a stupid article to post.

This might be the dumbest shit you've ever posted. You're randomly cherry picking proven star players vs busts to support the idea that level of competition doesn't matter...

How far will an idiot go to make themself feel smart

 

[bamainatlanta]

This might be the dumbest shit you've ever posted. You're randomly cherry picking proven star players vs busts to support the idea that level of competition doesn't matter...

How far will an idiot go to make themself feel smart

It has no correlation. Thanks.

Also, it’s pretty tiring with all of the shit threads you start. Most of which have no value.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

This might be the dumbest shit you've ever posted. You're randomly cherry picking proven star players vs busts to support the idea that level of competition doesn't matter...

How far will an idiot go to make themself feel smart

Are you smarter than the scouts?

We are like the people that play poker on Friday nights with our drunk buddies and think we can compete at the WSOP because we won some hands and we saw a lot of pros get all their chips taken on TV vs other pros. When in reality, there is a very nuanced skill involved that gives them a slight edge that makes a huge difference in the long run. But there is still a high failure rate just based on the variability of the activity.

Maye has a skill set that translates very well to NFL success. Can he bust? Ofcourse. But he is rated high across the board based on that skill set translating well and thus his ceiling is very high. It's not a perfect science.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

WCG: Fact Check - Caleb and other QB prospects versus Top 25 teams

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The Gay4Maye bandwagon just lost a wagon wheel....

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LOL.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Has anyone heard from Vince Young lately??

 

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It has no correlation. Thanks.

Also, it’s pretty tiring with all of the shit threads you start. Most of which have no value.

I've never heard any professional scout, GM, or analyst claim that how a prospect performs against the toughest competition doesn't matter, but since you like Maye it makes sense to you.

If all there is to discuss in every so called non shit thread is Justin vs Caleb, the echo chamber of bitching between "cults" is more valuable to you... Feel free to enjoy those instead.

 

[PrideisBears]

Has anyone heard from Vince Young lately??

To be fair his career was sabotaged

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Montucky is that you

 

[bamainatlanta]

I've never heard any professional scout, GM, or analyst claim that how a prospect performs against the toughest competition doesn't matter, but since you like Maye it makes sense to you.

If all there is to discuss in every so called non shit thread is Justin vs Caleb, the echo chamber of bitching between "cults" is more valuable to you... Feel free to enjoy those instead.

I said there is no correlation between the level of competition they have faced vs what their nfl success is. Because big games in college mean exactly nothing in the NFL for a QB. This isn’t hard

 

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I said there is no correlation between the level of competition they have faced vs what their nfl success is. Because big games in college mean exactly nothing in the NFL for a QB. This isn’t hard

Water is wet. There is no exact correlation of any stat that proves a QB will be successful. That doesn't mean looking at their performances against top level competition is totally irrelevant and "dumb".

What's really dumb is pretending that how they played against top 25 level competition is meaningless just because a prospect you like didn't fair well in the comparison.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Water is wet. There is no exact correlation of any stat that proves a QB will be successful. That doesn't mean looking at their performances against top level competition is totally irrelevant and "dumb".

What's really dumb is pretending that how they played against top 25 level competition is meaningless just because a prospect you like didn't fair well in the comparison.

Top 25 also doesn’t matter. What matters is how they fare against pressure and good defenses. A lot of bad defenses in the top 25, but you wouldn’t know that because you don’t watch the games.

 

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what about top 25 defenses?

"Prior to Saturday's loss to Utah, Williams against non-top-25 total defenses averaged a 70.3% completion rate and 317.2 yards per game while throwing 78 touchdowns to seven picks across 23 games. In five games against top-25 defenses, those dwindled to 51.4%, 172.0 and six touchdowns to six picks."

 

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Top 25 also doesn’t matter. What matters is how they fare against pressure and good defenses. A lot of bad defenses in the top 25, but you wouldn’t know that because you don’t watch the games.

There is no way to make a perfect comparison of prospects that are in different conferences. Therefore seeing how they performed against the top 25 ranked opponents is totally reasonable.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Water is wet. There is no exact correlation of any stat that proves a QB will be successful. That doesn't mean looking at their performances against top level competition is totally irrelevant and "dumb".

What's really dumb is pretending that how they played against top 25 level competition is meaningless just because a prospect you like didn't fair well in the comparison.

But you said fields can't be judged on stats unless someone else has been in the exact same situation as him. Therefore comparing college qb stats is even harder because the competition level and quality of teammates is all over.

 

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what about top 25 defenses?

"Prior to Saturday's loss to Utah, Williams against non-top-25 total defenses averaged a 70.3% completion rate and 317.2 yards per game while throwing 78 touchdowns to seven picks across 23 games. In five games against top-25 defenses, those dwindled to 51.4%, 172.0 and six touchdowns to six picks."

Against top 25 defenses would absolutely be a better comparison but I would guess it's a small sample size.

 

[bamainatlanta]

But you said fields can't be judged on stats unless someone else has been in the exact same situation as him. Therefore comparing college qb stats is even harder because the competition level and quality of teammates is all over.

He really isn’t make any sense at all.

 

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But you said fields can't be judged on stats unless someone else has been in the exact same situation as him. Therefore comparing college qb stats is even harder because the competition level and quality of teammates is all over.

I said stats are not definitive, they are informative however. The original post's stats dont prove Maye won't be successful at all, it's simply part of the evaluation

 

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