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I'm really starting to push for Jameis Winston.
I'm really starting to push for Jameis Winston.
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I think this is where I am hung up too. Noise is multiple 1s. For him, no freaking way. QB demands are at a premium for sure.
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I think a lot of the 'Carr love' spawned from the Eagles wanting 2 firsts for Wentz. Some feel he'd be a cheaper option when the initial report is 2 firsts is his asking price.
Please don't read this as me 'selling' Wentz. Whatever ends up happening will have nothing to do with our message board discussion.
Here's something to think of when comparing Wentz to Carr. Both teams know their QBs better than anyone else. They see them every day of the season and get to work with them.
The Eagles do not want to trade Wentz and find themselves compelled because the player wants out. As a recap, the team that knows Wentz the most doesn't want to trade him, but has to.
Now let's compare that to Carr. He's fine with the Raiders, but they would be looking to upgrade if they can. So, the team that knows him the most seems willing to part ways for the right price.
What does that tell you about each teams thoughts on their QBs underlying talent?
Please don't read this as me 'selling' Wentz. Whatever ends up happening will have nothing to do with our message board discussion.
Here's something to think of when comparing Wentz to Carr. Both teams know their QBs better than anyone else. They see them every day of the season and get to work with them.
The Eagles do not want to trade Wentz and find themselves compelled because the player wants out. As a recap, the team that knows Wentz the most doesn't want to trade him, but has to.
Now let's compare that to Carr. He's fine with the Raiders, but they would be looking to upgrade if they can. So, the team that knows him the most seems willing to part ways for the right price.
What does that tell you about each teams thoughts on their QBs underlying talent?
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Dude looks like he wears eyeliner, so that might be turning on some of the users here maybe?
Bears have to draft a guy and develop. All this pleading to give away assets to buy someone else's trash is just kicking the can down the road.
Bears have to draft a guy and develop. All this pleading to give away assets to buy someone else's trash is just kicking the can down the road.
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I would sign Jameis Winston before I traded a first and some change for Carr. Carr sucks in cold weather and is not taking this team over the top with a worse line.
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Ding ding ding
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Are you sure this is fact?
Explain to me how Wentz is significantly better than Goff, who the Rams had to actually give up a first to dump his contract? What is it that makes Wentz (plus his contract), worth, well, anything of significant value?
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I think Wentz is a better QB than Goff. Just my opinion. Stafford is better than Goff. Stafford got traded because he wanted a fresh start. DET aced that trade because the picks traded tell us all we need to know about how DET and LAR view each QBs value. I actually can see DET drafting a QB this year to develop.
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Well, if you do a cumulative stat line, like the poster I replied to did in another thread comparing Wentz to Stafford, they are nearly identical,
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I’d actually prefer Wentz over Carr. Carr needs a perfect pocket to be effective and he checks the ball down far too often. He plays scared. Wentz is tough as fuck, he’ll stand back there and take a huge hit to make a play...
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More rumors and sources claiming a push for Carr.
Color me meh
Color me meh
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I’d actually prefer Wentz over Carr. Carr needs a perfect pocket to be effective and he checks the ball down far too often. He plays scared. Wentz is tough as fuck, he’ll stand back there and take a huge hit to make a play...
This x 10000
I don’t get the love for Carr. Trubisky and Carr can check down with the best of them, but Carr at least make the more appropriate read lol
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To me, the players that struggle in cold weather it’s just an adjustment thing. They play one game every other year in freezing weather, if he played several every season I’m sure he’d adjust and be as good as he was in Oakland/Vegas
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Whatever people think about Stafford, they should think about Carr IMO. Carr never got to throw to Megatron or any decent receiver. I think he’s a pretty solid, accurate QB who’s a clear upgrade. He’d thrive with more weapons and a good defense.
The Raiders were a laughingstock before they got him, he’s basically made them an average team by himself with no defense or weapons on offense.
I also think his game will age well. He’s accurate and not a guy you dumb down the playbook for.
Also great leader and attitude, respected by his teammates, the opposite of Wentz
The Raiders were a laughingstock before they got him, he’s basically made them an average team by himself with no defense or weapons on offense.
I also think his game will age well. He’s accurate and not a guy you dumb down the playbook for.
Also great leader and attitude, respected by his teammates, the opposite of Wentz
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Amari Cooper and Darren Waller are both pretty “decent”
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You make a valid point here, worth considering.
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Yeah true, but I wouldn’t really call Cooper elite personally, and there’s a reason they traded him. Waller is for sure a stud though.
Bur I still think he hasn’t had great weapons. Especially the last 2 seasons.
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Absolutely. If it was just arm talent, Carr would be top NFL QB but he's the opposite of clutch.I’d actually prefer Wentz over Carr. Carr needs a perfect pocket to be effective and he checks the ball down far too often. He plays scared. Wentz is tough as fuck, he’ll stand back there and take a huge hit to make a play...