CBE 92: An Analysis of Kirk from 2005-2010

[Shakes]

Kirk shot well, but he only took 1 shot in the last quarter and a half. That's where Fred's criticism of him is very valid, even when he's playing well he just doesn't give the team offense because he wont take shots.

Defensively the whole team looked like a train wreck. The Mavs did whatever they wanted, they only had two possessions where they didn't score in the last 8 minutes of the game. No way we can win playing like that.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Clearly Kirk is not much of a 2nd half player. It's not really news at this point. He's not much of an offensive player in general to sum up what you guys are trying to pound into someone's head. He's just super inconsistent.

Also...what the heck happened to Salmons? He's been a beast in Milwaukee. He must be playing the 3 again.

 

[Shakes]

Fred, I have to correct you on one thing you said in the podcast. You said Hinrich lived up to the contract one year. However, in 06/07 he was still on his rookie contract, his new contract had not kicked in. Stop being a drone and making Kirk out to be better than he is!

 

[clonetrooper264]

Kirk lived up to his contract at some point?!? IMPOSSIBLE! And you complain how other people overrate Kirk.

 

[pinkizdead]

scott skiles is a genius. i honestly think there's something wrong with this bulls team. everyone starts to suck on it.

 

[Fred]

Shakes wrote:

Fred, I have to correct you on one thing you said in the podcast. You said Hinrich lived up to the contract one year. However, in 06/07 he was still on his rookie contract, his new contract had not kicked in. Stop being a drone and making Kirk out to be better than he is!

lol, you got me brother. Good point. I'll make a public apology on #94. #93 was recorded last night.

In all honesty, as I said before, Kirk played great in 06-07. 30 games with 20 or more...that's what I'd expect from him, along with his solid defense. There was a great article on BlogaBull that shows how much better we are when Kirk is on:

http://thankyouisiah.blogspot.com/2010/03/what-could-roust-me-from-my-bulls.html

 

[Shakes]

Kirk's win/loss splits aren't that dissimilar to him home/road ones. For some reason he's shooting nicely at home and horribly on the road. Rose shows a similar pattern (but not to the same extent). It's no wonder we're a much better team at home.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Wade said the rims in the UC are special. Maybe this has something to do with that bad shooting on the road.

 

[Shakes]

Well interestingly the only year Kirk's had a really strong shooting start to the season was 06/07, when the new ball was used. A lot of players hated the new ball handling wise, but it did seem to have a favourable bounce on the rim for jump shooters. Deng also shot lights out in November/December that year.

I've got to admit I was a bit disappointed when they changed back since that year was the only year the Bulls had a winning record by Christmas.

 

[jsain360]

TheStig wrote:

I'm personally tired of hearing that if we traded Kirk, we wouldn't make the playoffs. I don't view him as an interigle piece of the team. He is very expendable at this point and is not the glue that holds the team together. Rose, Noah, Deng and to a lesser extent Taj are the team. Its no wonder we are struggling without our real glue guy in Noah. I felt BG could have been a big piece going forward but even without him I would rather be able to offer a 5/55 deal to someone this summer. That could be *** or Lee depending on who we sign as the main piece.

Neither is a main piece

 

[jsain360]

I will not change my avatar untill he is off the team.

 

[jsain360]

Just getting Kirk to score 15 on a consistent bases would be a start, but his contract justifies he has to bring more than intangibles

 

[clonetrooper264]

jsain360 wrote:

I will not change my avatar untill he is off the team.

If management has his way, you'll never change your avatar. If what appears to be the consensus about Kirk on this forum was what management thought, we'd never have gotten Kirk to begin with.