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Derrick Rose is the best PG in the NBA. He said it at halftime of the Celtics-Magic game last night. Thoughts?
 

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I really believe Rose is up there.. Top 2 right now.

Maybe, just Maybe Deron Williams has a slight edge.
 

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D-Will is still getting a lot more superstar calls. Just the other night, I was watching the Jazz-Zards game, and he got away with extra steps all night long. I have no reason to dislike Deron(illini love!) and I have no qualms about him and Chris Paul getting their respects in a PG ranking scheme. But come on, if the refs give Williams this kind of love, they still have a ways to go, as far as giving Rose's breaks.
 

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i agree with chuck but i also agree with Crystallas he should be getting a lot more calls like in the grizz game every time he went past the ft line he got slapped/bumped no whistle
 

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The thing is, Paul and Williams get their superstar calls every time they get touched, but when Rose drives and attempts a layup there's no calls and I mean it's not like he's getting bumped, he's getting hit.
 

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A couple months back, i would have said i disagree but i do think he is the best PG in the league right now. His scoring ability is second to none IMO. I love the progression he's made year to year. Like ive said since the Bulls-Celtics series, the maturation i see from Rose is the exact same thing i saw from Wade when i attended countless Heat games his rookie year and watching him throughout his career.

Rose still has a long way to go offensively, obviously but he has shown improvement. I think this past week might have been his best week defensively. I like what he did on those late possessions against Wade. His steals and blocks #s are up too.

Love that the 3pt shot has finally came around. I imagine it will only improve. Maybe not significantly but it will get better.

Ive always defended his passing ability. We've seen what happens when he has guys that can make open shots. Adding Boozer, Korver and have Deng play his best ball shows that.

Whats scary is that this kid right now is great and he's not even done. He has such a chip on his shoulder, its ridiculous.
 

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I'm scared because Rose can easily get hurt. The way he's getting hit and the way he's flying and attacking the rim it sometimes remind me that if he keeps doing that I don't think he'll last long without getting injured. What about you guys?
 

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I'm scared because Rose can easily get hurt. The way he's getting hit and the way he's flying and attacking the rim it sometimes remind me that if he keeps doing that I don't think he'll last long without getting injured. What about you guys?

Rose isn't nearly as reckless as Westbrook is...have you seen that guy? Like a bowling ball!

I think Rose's body control is a big help in that area, but I do believe he gets hit often. He has gotten calls recently though.
 

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Rose isn't nearly as reckless as Westbrook is...have you seen that guy? Like a bowling ball!

I think Rose's body control is a big help in that area, but I do believe he gets hit often. He has gotten calls recently though.
This.

Rose tries to get the best shot possible. He's starting to get the calls he should've gotten now. I haven't seen a lot of Westbrook.
 

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This.

Rose tries to get the best shot possible. He's starting to get the calls he should've gotten now. I haven't seen a lot of Westbrook.

They work out together and have many of the same abilities. Westbrook may be the biggest reason Rose wins MVP this year. He has stolen some of the thunder from Durant in OKC, though Durant has come on strong in recent weeks. Because Dirk got hurt, it may be a two man race: Rose and Dwight Howard.
 

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They work out together and have many of the same abilities. Westbrook may be the biggest reason Rose wins MVP this year. He has stolen some of the thunder from Durant in OKC, though Durant has come on strong in recent weeks. Because Dirk got hurt, it may be a two man race: Rose and Dwight Howard.
Yeah, they do work out together in the summer. I just haven't seen enough of Westbrook but on highlights. I know he is killing in OKC and out-shining Durant though. He has been beasting on the floor.

What I also do know is he has a great work ethic and will be one of the top pg's very, very soon.

I feel Rose is the best PG right now with D-Will just behind him, because Rose is the sole reason this team is able to tread water and win games given all of the injuries and having had the full squad only 9 games this year and Noah was hurt even then.

Barkley is right, but I wouldn't be upset if he said Deron was better. I'm a fan of his from his Illinois days. Not saying that that's the only reason, Deron has proved himself and CP3 isn't himself this year, even though he's playing well.
 

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Westbrook also raced the ball up court w/ 7 seconds left in a game already decided just so he could get a triple-double, something I find utterly classless.

There's your difference between Rose & Westbrook.
 

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Westbrook also raced the ball up court w/ 7 seconds left in a game already decided just so he could get a triple-double, something I find utterly classless.

There's your difference between Rose & Westbrook.

:smh:

Ricky Davis(i think that was him) throwing the ball at his own basket to get the extra rebound for a triple double

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Westbrook also raced the ball up court w/ 7 seconds left in a game already decided just so he could get a triple-double, something I find utterly classless.

There's your difference between Rose & Westbrook.

Rose reneged on an appearance on a sitcom that he was obligated to show up for without informing the people that he wouldn't show up...that was classless too. They are both young and neither seem to be classless individuals and shouldn't be looked at that way, at least not based on what they have done so far in their careers...
 

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I think, at this point, it is unfair to say these three players:

Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams

are anything other than interchangeable. All of them are top 10 NBA players, and it is a 3-way horse race for who the best PG in the NBA is.
 

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I think, at this point, it is unfair to say these three players:

Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams

are anything other than interchangeable. All of them are top 10 NBA players, and it is a 3-way horse race for who the best PG in the NBA is.

I think Paul drops out of that race, due to the fact that one of his legs looks like it belongs to Robocop. Its between Willians and Rose right now, with Paul in 3rd.
 

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I don't know about robocop, but that knee brace is big enough and thick enough you could take it off and sleep on it. It's amazing he's still as good as he is.
 

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Rose reneged on an appearance on a sitcom that he was obligated to show up for without informing the people that he wouldn't show up...that was classless too. They are both young and neither seem to be classless individuals and shouldn't be looked at that way, at least not based on what they have done so far in their careers...

Hahaha you can't be serious with this. That example has absolutely nothing to do with this. There's two sides to that story. The producers say he blew it off, Rose said it was a mix up. No one knows the real truth but those parties. Westbrook, on the other hand, showed up an entire team in front of a sell out crowd just to pad his stats. There's no gray area to be found there. It's the poorest form of bad sportsmanship. When the opposing team throws in the towel, you don't throw one more punch on the way down. If I was on the Hawks I would have laid him out right after that assist.

Oh, btw, I'm not calling Westbrook classless, I'm calling THE PLAY classless, which it most certainly was & that Rose would never dream of doing that, EVER.
 
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Hahaha you can't be serious with this. That example has absolutely nothing to do with this. There's two sides to that story. The producers say he blew it off, Rose said it was a mix up. No one knows the real truth but those parties. Westbrook, on the other hand, showed up an entire team in front of a sell out crowd just to pad his stats. There's no gray area to be found there. It's the poorest form of bad sportsmanship. When the opposing team throws in the towel, you don't throw one more punch on the way down. If I was on the Hawks I would have laid him out right after that assist.

Oh, btw, I'm not calling Westbrook classless, I'm calling THE PLAY classless, which it most certainly was & that Rose would never dream of doing that, EVER.

Rose lied about the situation. The network had a contractual agreement with Rose and he didn't fulfill his obligation. That was classless on his part. It's the poorest form of integrity...reneging on an agreement with ever saying anything to the people he had the agreement with.

One showed up a team on television...the other showed up a damn television show. Plain and simple. So until Westbrook shows otherwise, I can say he would never do what Rose did....

However, I choose to let these young guys live their lives and learn from their mistakes rather than put one over the other morally, on the court or off the court. They both seem to be good, respectable people who are really good basketball players.
 

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