Chicago Bears select WR Kevin White 7th overall in the 2015 NFL Draft

[The Hawk]

Listing the stats off of 4 of his last 7 games to address your phony concerns about his dip in production doesn't seem all that selective.

That represents MOST of his games from the midway point of the season through the end of the season/.

Would you prefer we just cut and pasted all his game by game stats?

Either way you look like the football nimrod you are, and it's still clear you don't have the faintest clue about what your talking about.

You just don't get how asinine that you are. You SELECTIVELY take games in order to try and cover up his performance in others. Its just a weak ass trick used by losers like you who want to make themselves appear smarter than they are. Then when someone disagrees with you you call them stupid and/or bloviate about how smart you are against your peer group.

I said that White had a fall-off in performance over the 2nd half of his senior year. I was correct. It is indisputable fact. You, though, decided to insult and ridicule me as the low life punk that you are. Grow the **** up. You are not nearly as smart as you brag that you are. You are just insecure.

 

[PAPABEAR77]

You just don't get how asinine that you are. You SELECTIVELY take games in order to try and cover up his performance in others. Its just a weak ass trick used by losers like you who want to make themselves appear smarter than they are. Then when someone disagrees with you you call them stupid and/or bloviate about how smart you are against your peer group.

I said that White had a fall-off in performance over the 2nd half of his senior year. I was correct. It is indisputable fact. You, though, decided to insult and ridicule me as the low life punk that you are. Grow the **** up. You are not nearly as smart as you brag that you are. You are just insecure.

really did you watch those games or are you just going by stats?

 

[Bearly]

You just don't get how asinine that you are. You SELECTIVELY take games in order to try and cover up his performance in others. Its just a weak ass trick used by losers like you who want to make themselves appear smarter than they are. Then when someone disagrees with you you call them stupid and/or bloviate about how smart you are against your peer group.

I said that White had a fall-off in performance over the 2nd half of his senior year. I was correct. It is indisputable fact. You, though, decided to insult and ridicule me as the low life punk that you are. Grow the **** up. You are not nearly as smart as you brag that you are. You are just insecure.

:wacko::facepalm2:

 

[LIBlue]

Virtually every scouting site had him in the top 10 prospects, most in the top 6. One of the three Biletnikoff award finalists as the top receiver in college football.

Since 2002, WVU has finished in the top 25 6 times, which most second tier programs do not accomplish. By the way, Stanford, the school of Andrus Peat, who you stated we should have selected, has 4 top 25 finishes since 2002 - but why should we take a OL from a second tier school. Your logic, not mine.

The JUCO argument was completely disproved. Four # 1 picks went to JUCOs - Cam Newton, Ron Yary, OJ Simpson and Keyshawn Johnson. Five 2013 first round draft picks went in the first round - Cordarrele Patterson, Kyle Long, Star Lotulelei, Sylvester Williams and Shelton Richardson. Add in Aaron Rodgers, Cortez Kennedy, Corey Dillion, Jeremy Shockey, Bryant McKenzie, Nick Fairley, James Carpenter, Stephen Paea, Lavonte David, you get the gist.

 

[ice750]

You just don't get how asinine that you are. You SELECTIVELY take games in order to try and cover up his performance in others. Its just a weak ass trick used by losers like you who want to make themselves appear smarter than they are. Then when someone disagrees with you you call them stupid and/or bloviate about how smart you are against your peer group.

I said that White had a fall-off in performance over the 2nd half of his senior year. I was correct. It is indisputable fact. You, though, decided to insult and ridicule me as the low life punk that you are. Grow the **** up. You are not nearly as smart as you brag that you are. You are just insecure.

tcu game, clint trickett wvu's starting qb got hurt http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=1011176&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.NEW

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=1016143&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.NEW kevin white had over 100 yards receiving, no td's though and clint was still showing the effects from getting hurt against tcu, his numbers show that.

the Kansas state game http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=1035763&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.NEW two qb's in this game for wvu, tricket got another concussion during this one. kevin had under 100 yards but did have a td,

iowa state game, tricket didn't play at all, in fact he didn't play again for the rest of his career. too many concussions. kevin white's worst statistical game of his senior year. http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=1049864 first time starting for skylar howard. wvu used a heavy dose of running to win.

when tricket was healthy his main target was kevin white, those two worked all summer to gain that trust and timing.

sort of hard for a Wr to produce when his qb is suffering from concussions.

 

[PAPABEAR77]

tcu game, clint trickett wvu's starting qb got hurt http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=1011176&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.NEW

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=1016143&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.NEW kevin white had over 100 yards receiving, no td's though and clint was still showing the effects from getting hurt against tcu, his numbers show that.

the Kansas state game http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=1035763&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.NEW two qb's in this game for wvu, tricket got another concussion during this one. kevin had under 100 yards but did have a td,

iowa state game, tricket didn't play at all, in fact he didn't play again for the rest of his career. too many concussions. kevin white's worst statistical game of his senior year. http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=1049864 first time starting for skylar howard. wvu used a heavy dose of running to win.

when tricket was healthy his main target was kevin white, those two worked all summer to gain that trust and timing.

sort of hard for a Wr to produce when his qb is suffering from concussions.

he is just throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it will stick I was just going to go there with tricket however you beat me to it lol.

 

[ice750]

yeah I gathered that he is a poopcaso pretty quickly.

 

[The Hawk]

Virtually every scouting site had him in the top 10 prospects, most in the top 6. One of the three Biletnikoff award finalists as the top receiver in college football.

Since 2002, WVU has finished in the top 25 6 times, which most second tier programs do not accomplish. By the way, Stanford, the school of Andrus Peat, who you stated we should have selected, has 4 top 25 finishes since 2002 - but why should we take a OL from a second tier school. Your logic, not mine.

The JUCO argument was completely disproved. Four # 1 picks went to JUCOs - Cam Newton, Ron Yary, OJ Simpson and Keyshawn Johnson. Five 2013 first round draft picks went in the first round - Cordarrele Patterson, Kyle Long, Star Lotulelei, Sylvester Williams and Shelton Richardson. Add in Aaron Rodgers, Cortez Kennedy, Corey Dillion, Jeremy Shockey, Bryant McKenzie, Nick Fairley, James Carpenter, Stephen Paea, Lavonte David, you get the gist.

All I said that it was valid to question a kid not getting recruited out of high school and who went to a JUCO. I hope the guy becomes all-pro but I felt, and still feel that they needed a quality offensive lineman more with their first pick. You guys are projecting this guy to be as good as PROVEN HOFers for cripes sake. I'm saying he has question marks going in and that they had other, more important needs.

 

[Newblood]

All I said that it was valid to question a kid not getting recruited out of high school and who went to a JUCO. I hope the guy becomes all-pro but I felt, and still feel that they needed a quality offensive lineman more with their first pick. You guys are projecting this guy to be as good as PROVEN HOFers for cripes sake. I'm saying he has question marks going in and that they had other, more important needs.

Wrong. It is not a valid arguement. Your arguement has been refuted by the multiple examples of successful players in the NFL that went the JC route. Your argument is on the same level as saying that it's valid to question the kids ability to play in the NFL because he has dreds and list players with dreds that failed in the NFL.

Kids play for a JC for multiple reason, outside of talent. Even if you want to argue talent, by the time they reach the age of entering the NFL, the JC experience is years behind them. Even through 1 year, the maturation of a kid at that age can be significant, both physically and mentally. Especially if they are in an environment that is conducive to growth.

Your continued effort to grasp at straws is making you look more and more foolish and desperate for anything as a knock against White.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

The Hawk is the single worst poster on this website, and frankly, that is a pretty big accomplishment.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

You just don't get how asinine that you are. You SELECTIVELY take games in order to try and cover up his performance in others. Its just a weak ass trick used by losers like you who want to make themselves appear smarter than they are. Then when someone disagrees with you you call them stupid and/or bloviate about how smart you are against your peer group.

I said that White had a fall-off in performance over the 2nd half of his senior year. I was correct. It is indisputable fact. You, though, decided to insult and ridicule me as the low life punk that you are. Grow the **** up. You are not nearly as smart as you brag that you are. You are just insecure.

You sound mad Hawk. Why you mad?

It's an indisputable fact approximately half of all offensive players will have an aggregate decrease in production over the 2nd half of the season as compared to the first half. To merely state that his production was less in one portion of the season than in another without talking about proportion and context when dealing with small numbers of games (6-5 in this case) is beyond ridiculous and I would say deserving of ridicule and derision.

Congratulations on making a non-point and not understanding the context of how WVU's season went.


Also, no, there is no reasonable argument for pretending like White going the JUCO route as a 17 yr old is some red flag 5 yrs after he would have been recruited. This is even more true once we investigated and saw 1) White was talking to at least one major college which had to stop recruiting him bc of grade issues and 2) He was young for his grade level and apparently was quite a bit smaller as a Jr. in H.S.

You are a crude and grotesque caricature of a dumb, clueless and obstinate sports fan that is lost in the information age. I maybe obnoxious and condescending at times on here- and to be sure a lot of it is schtick- but you are willfully ignorant and refuse to admit you have no clue at all about college football, Kevin White or football in general yet refuse to admit ever being wrong.

That is why people are slamming you, and that is why I will continue to poke fun at your obtuse and inaccurate posting.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I think with hindsight being 20/20 there are probably A LOT of college coaches kicking themselves for not working their magic to get a future #7 draft pick enrolled at their D1 school right away.

Of course, there is nothing to suggest that him being recruited heavily right away would have allowed him to mature and position himself to eventually be a #7 draft pick.

 

[WindyCity]

I am looking for the link, but someone tweeted out that the Bears had a top 5 draft based on value of players picked by round.

I believe it tabulated each players ranking and compared it to draft position.

 

[Ari Bear]

More stoked than ever.

Me too!

 

[The Hawk]

Wrong. It is not a valid arguement. Your arguement has been refuted by the multiple examples of successful players in the NFL that went the JC route. Your argument is on the same level as saying that it's valid to question the kids ability to play in the NFL because he has dreds and list players with dreds that failed in the NFL.

Kids play for a JC for multiple reason, outside of talent. Even if you want to argue talent, by the time they reach the age of entering the NFL, the JC experience is years behind them. Even through 1 year, the maturation of a kid at that age can be significant, both physically and mentally. Especially if they are in an environment that is conducive to growth.

Your continued effort to grasp at straws is making you look more and more foolish and desperate for anything as a knock against White.

You can think and believe whatever you want to believe but making my logic similar to a kid wearing dreds is silly. You and others choose to ignore the FACTS that White wasb't recruited out of high school and that he had one very successful college season. That is your perogative. YOu are just making up reasons why he wasn't recruited into a high profile successful football program. You
re even bringing up shit like "maturation" and growth in an "environment" into the equation. Funny stuff. What's next, Dr. Joyce Brothers giving us a psych profile? And you want to accuse me of "grasping at straws"? Hilarious stuff you're coming up with.

Like I said before, many times, I hope the guy has a wonderful career. This isn't personal. I find it funny actually how people like yourself get so uptight about my questioning a Bear's draft pick to the point of bringing obscure stuff like you just did and a loser like the OSU wonk selectively picking out part of White's performance stats and intentionally omitting others in a lame attempt to prove me wrong.

 

[The Hawk]

The Hawk is the single worst poster on this website, and frankly, that is a pretty big accomplishment.

Hey Gus. I hope that you had a Happy Mother's Day and that your children picked out an nice bouquet of flowers for you.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Hey Gus. I hope that you had a Happy Mother's Day and that your children picked out an nice bouquet of flowers for you.

My wife died during childbirth, along with my yet to be born daughter. But please, continue making jokes like that.

 

[The Hawk]

My wife died during childbirth, along with my yet to be born daughter. But please, continue making jokes like that.

Sorry about your wife and child

 

[The Hawk]

I think with hindsight being 20/20 there are probably A LOT of college coaches kicking themselves for not working their magic to get a future #7 draft pick enrolled at their D1 school right away.

Of course, there is nothing to suggest that him being recruited heavily right away would have allowed him to mature and position himself to eventually be a #7 draft pick.

Maybe but I doubt it. The major football programs get guys equal or better than White all of the time. They are football factories and when one jock goes down, they just plug in another one. USC used to be like that with running backs. The 2nd tier programs, I think, have to work harder to unearth guys who come out of less well known high schools and the JCs. White, obviously flew under the major schools radar but it isn't like they would be kicking themselves in the ass for some recruiting coach missing him.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Sorry about your wife and child

No you're not, you fucking jagoff.