Chicago Bulls Draft Discussion Thread

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Hilarious any talk about the Bulls getting anything in this draft with the 22nd pick. They are going to dismantle this team and try and rebuild it with offensive players to fit Gar's style with their lackey coach jumping through his hoops. 5th in the division next year at best.

Jimmy Butler was the 30th pick.

 

[Scoot26]

Jimmy Butler was the 30th pick.

Niko was the 23rd pick.

Taj was in the 26th pick.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Niko was the 23rd pick.

Taj was in the 26th pick.

But the Bulls won't draft anyone who will matter at 22. TONY SNELL WAS PICK 20 GUIZ

Oh wait

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

By the way.....speaking of that 2011 draft: Jimmy Butler is only one of 3 players from that draft to make an all-star team.

 

[Scoot26]

By the way.....speaking of that 2011 draft: Jimmy Butler is only one of 3 players from that draft to make an all-star team.

And one won a Finals MVP last year.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

And one won a Finals MVP last year.

Yeah, but what is even more amazing about that feat is that he wasn't included in my group of three.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Yeah, but what is even more amazing about that feat is that he wasn't included in my group of three.

He's the only Finals MVP to not make the All Star team right?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

He's the only Finals MVP to not make the All Star team right?

I'd have to look that up, but just thinking about it I can't imagine there are many who fit that bill. He does play in an awfully crowded western conference, so that doesn't help him. I'm not sure Jimmy gets a nomination or MIP if he's in the west.

 

[Scoot26]

He's the only Finals MVP to not make the All Star team right?

Cedric Maxwell 1981.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

And there you have it.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Cedric Maxwell 1981.

Definitely forgot about that one. All the same, still impressive.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Maxwell also has his number retired by the Celtics - presumably because of his playoff performances only. Nothing about him says he was that great in the regular season.

 

[Scoot26]

Maxwell also has his number retired by the Celtics - presumably because of his playoff performances only. Nothing about him says he was that great in the regular season.

Season	Tm	G	GS	MP	FG%	3P%	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1977-78	BOS	72		16.8	.538		.752	1.9	3.3	5.3	0.9	0.7	0.7	1.7	2.1	7.3
1978-79	BOS	80		37.1	.584		.802	3.4	6.5	9.9	2.9	1.2	0.9	3.4	3.3	19.0
1979-80	BOS	80	80	34.3	.609		.787	3.6	5.3	8.8	2.5	1.0	0.8	2.9	3.3	16.9
1980-81	BOS	81	81	33.7	.588	.000	.782	2.7	3.7	6.5	2.7	1.0	0.8	2.2	3.2	15.2
1981-82	BOS	78	73	33.2	.548	.000	.747	2.8	3.6	6.4	2.3	1.0	0.6	2.2	3.4	14.8
1982-83	BOS	79	71	28.5	.499	.000	.812	2.3	3.0	5.3	2.4	0.8	0.5	2.1	2.6	11.9
1983-84	BOS	80	78	31.3	.532	.167	.753	2.5	3.3	5.8	2.6	0.8	0.3	2.5	2.8	11.9
1984-85	BOS	57	51	26.2	.533	.000	.831	1.7	2.5	4.2	1.8	0.6	0.3	1.7	2.5	11.1
1985-86	LAC	76	72	32.3	.475	.000	.795	3.2	5.0	8.2	2.8	0.8	0.4	2.7	3.3	14.1
1986-87	TOT	81	31	24.3	.530	.000	.775	2.2	3.2	5.4	2.4	0.5	0.2	1.7	2.2	10.0
1986-87	LAC	35	31	32.3	.519		.776	2.9	4.2	7.2	3.5	0.7	0.3	2.5	2.9	13.6
1986-87	HOU	46	0	18.2	.548	.000	.773	1.6	2.4	4.0	1.6	0.3	0.1	1.0	1.7	7.2
1987-88	HOU	71	0	11.9	.468	.000	.769	1.0	1.5	2.5	0.8	0.3	0.2	0.8	1.1	3.8
Career		835	537	28.5	.546	.053	.784	2.5	3.8	6.3	2.2	0.8	0.5	2.2	2.7	12.5

He was on a stacked team.. but even once traded away from the Celtics, he still never put up gaudy numbers of any kind. He was the same position as Bird and had his best season the year before Bird showed up.

His playoff numbers overall aren't all that different from his regular season numbers...

And as far as stats go, he didn't really seem to outplay Bird that much concerning the #'s. Especially given Bird got 15.3 RPG in those finals lol.
1981 NBA Finals Boston Celtics

Rk	Player	G	MP	PTS	TRB	AST	STL	BLK
1	Cedric Maxwell	6	37.8	17.7	9.5	2.8	0.2	1.0
2	Larry Bird	6	42.8	15.3	15.3	7.0	2.3	0.5
3	Robert Parish	6	27.8	15.0	7.7	1.0	1.2	2.0
4	Chris Ford	6	30.7	10.5	2.7	2.3	0.7	0.0
5	Tiny Archibald	6	33.8	10.3	1.2	5.5	0.7	0.0

 

[clonetrooper264]

Looking at those stats, I'm genuinely shocked Maxwell got MVP.

 

[Scoot26]

Looking at those stats, I'm genuinely shocked Maxwell got MVP.

Bird was shutdown by Houston's defense in that series offensively.. Could be there was zero WOW factor for the voters. Maxwell picked up Bird's slack.

But yeah definitely the worst Finals MVP in history thus far.

Leonard needs to at least make an All-Star team to get him out of that category.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Bird was shutdown by Houston's defense in that series offensively.. Could be there was zero WOW factor for the voters. Maxwell picked up Bird's slack.

But yeah definitely the worst Finals MVP in history thus far.

Leonard needs to at least make an All-Star team to get him out of that category.

Actually Leonard only averaged 17.8ppg that series due to the first two games where he had foul trouble. Idk what else Maxwell did in that series though. Maybe he was a good defender too or something.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I'm guessing it's not so much how much, but when he put up the numbers.

 

[clonetrooper264]

I'm guessing it's not so much how much, but when he put up the numbers.

Could be. Leonard put up some big points in the last 3 games of that series to really push SA over the top if I recall right. Danny Green I believe also did a lot of timely scoring.

 

[RoseMVP1]

Could be. Leonard put up some big points in the last 3 games of that series to really push SA over the top if I recall right. Danny Green I believe also did a lot of timely scoring.

He did. I think he had one game in 1 or 2 where he hardly scored at all which really effected his PPG. I think he shot a very high percentage in those final 3 games...I want to say like 60%?

 

[RoseMVP1]

real talk

you are better off fading on a 3 with a defender in your face than hitting a simple layup

Lol sadly this isn't even much of an exaggeration. I could go on and on about how bad that game sucks. The best shot in the game is mid range and statistically speaking it's the worst shot in basketball. Got to love 2k.