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Upload part II already!!! In my mind, it makes the most sense to release them both at the same time if you're going to split them into 2 parts. You already have both parts, what's the holdup? And no, having a life is not an excuse.

If they release everything now, you won't tune in next week for the rerun.
I'm gonna listen one way or the other, but I'm more about the instant gratification if you know what I mean. In other words, I'm impatient. :laugh:
 

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Need that part II, I have that empty feeling.
 

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Guys, I would like to personally apologize for us doing these 2 part episodes. You see, my partner Fred is a moron. He is having a hard time figuring out how to compress the files using Audacity. The shows he cut normally are 2 parters for that reason (and also go up about a month after we tape them).

I am officially proclaiming that I will now assume cutting responsibilities for the Chicago Bullseye! I do not enjoy sound effect overlays as much as Fred (which is why the shows take him about a year to put up), but I will get the show up quick, the files will be small and they will no longer be 2 parters!

HIP HIP HORRAY!
 

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mlewinth wrote:
Guys, I would like to personally apologize for us doing these 2 part episodes. You see, my partner Fred is a moron. He is having a hard time figuring out how to compress the files using Audacity. The shows he cut normally are 2 parters for that reason (and also go up about a month after we tape them).

I am officially proclaiming that I will now assume cutting responsibilities for the Chicago Bullseye! I do not enjoy sound effect overlays as much as Fred (which is why the shows take him about a year to put up), but I will get the show up quick, the files will be small and they will no longer be 2 parters!

HIP HIP HORRAY!
LEWINTHAL FOR PRESIDENT!
 

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Just got around to listening to the episode good stuff Houston sounds like a real nice dude with alot of knowledge on the game even if i disagree on the stuff with Ben Gordon, but it was good to see both sides of the argument

I must say thou the audio coming out in stereo in recent episodes has been slightly annoying but still wont stop me from listening. good stuff keep it up
 

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engies wrote:
Just got around to listening to the episode good stuff Houston sounds like a real nice dude with alot of knowledge on the game even if i disagree on the stuff with Ben Gordon, but it was good to see both sides of the argument

I must say thou the audio coming out in stereo in recent episodes has been slightly annoying but still wont stop me from listening. good stuff keep it up

Yea I think Diddy found out how to fix it, so I will try to fix that on the next one. I love this new software I found becasue it works, but this sterio crap is bullshat!
 

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Well, I noticed this critique of the last episode Mark put out, #75:

"is there a way to fix the delay between the two speakers? i REALLY was looking forward to this podcast but i just couldnt listen to it with the delay, where one person would say something and the other wont hear it until 3 seconds later, and then the 2nd person's response is late and the first person had already started to say something else and the mad cycle continues. it drives me nuts, im sorry. if theres nothing you can do to fix that, lmk so i can shut up about it" - ChiLife84

You'll notice that there isn't the same problem in the shows I cut w/ Houheffna and Mark. That's because I went through the tremendously time-consuming process of deleting these pauses. True, it takes a lot longer to cut, but it will prevent you from going "nuts".

In all honesty, we could just fix this problem if I just recorded it in my home studio, and recorded Mark on the phone like I do with KC and Doug. But the white Ninja Turtle insists on the crappy sound recordings we get off of Skype.

So I BEG OF YOU, listen to Episode #69. Would you rather hear us like that...or would you rather have it like 74 and 75? Search your feelings, Mark...you know it to be true.
 

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I have no complaints either way. Its a learning experience and there are smart people on this site who I am sure can help (Diddy already did I guess). I hope for bigger and better things for all podcasts and everyone involved...
 

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Fred wrote:
Well, I noticed this critique of the last episode Mark put out, #75:

"is there a way to fix the delay between the two speakers? i REALLY was looking forward to this podcast but i just couldnt listen to it with the delay, where one person would say something and the other wont hear it until 3 seconds later, and then the 2nd person's response is late and the first person had already started to say something else and the mad cycle continues. it drives me nuts, im sorry. if theres nothing you can do to fix that, lmk so i can shut up about it" - ChiLife84

You'll notice that there isn't the same problem in the shows I cut w/ Houheffna and Mark. That's because I went through the tremendously time-consuming process of deleting these pauses. True, it takes a lot longer to cut, but it will prevent you from going "nuts".

In all honesty, we could just fix this problem if I just recorded it in my home studio, and recorded Mark on the phone like I do with KC and Doug. But the white Ninja Turtle insists on the crappy sound recordings we get off of Skype.

So I BEG OF YOU, listen to Episode #69. Would you rather hear us like that...or would you rather have it like 74 and 75? Search your feelings, Mark...you know it to be true.

This stuff can be fixed in CallGraph, you just have to monkey around with the settings a bit. Recording in mono will help right away, as for the delay, you should be able to change the encoding rate for the files which should take care of the problem.

Mark's thing was he wanted the podcast up & ready to go almost right away. And since it took you damn near a month to post all of episode 74, & people were bitching about it, he just said F it, we're not gonna cut, we'll just do the whole thing one take & post it. See what happens when you disappear for a month Fred?
 

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Fred seemed to be the most right during this whole thing. Gordon's shot isn't what killed the Bulls. The Bulls as a team just weren't getting stops, and Salmons/Hinrich followed that play with some missed shots and a turnover. Ben Gordon followed up the bad plays by those two by scoring 6 straight points.

As for the Pistons series in 2007, Scott Skiles is most to blame for that loss. The Bulls just couldn't score in those first three games, scoring 69, 87, and 74. Ben Gordon's scoring was down for the series, averaging 17 points a game, but he did it on par with his season efficiency, with 57.1 TS%.

The problem in that series is that Scott Skiles had Gordon just stand in the corner all series long. The Pistons were a well coached team, and they just had a bigger defender put on Gordon, who played Gordon tight. The previous series, Gordon got the ball at the top of the key, and destroyed Miami. Scott Skiles basically took away the Gordon advantage. He pulled his guy out, but we didn't have anyone who could drive well to take advantage of that. We should have had Gordon getting the ball at the top of the key some, running around off screens to tire out the Piston's defenders...and force them to double Gordon, opening up the game for everyone else.

And the defensive argument for the Pistons series is overblown.

Richard Hamilton averaged 18.3 points a game on 52.4 TS%. In the regular season, Hamitlon averaged 19.8 points on 55.1 TS%.

Chauncey Billups averaged 19.3 points a game on 57.9 TS%. In the regular season, Billups averaged 17 points on 59.1 TS%.

So you are blasting Ben Gordon for not being able to guard the Pistons backcourt. Richard Hamilton, who Gordon guarded for most of the series, scored less points on a lower efficiency than he did in the regular season. That's a defensive success.

Billups, who Hinrich guarded the majority of the series, scored more points, but did it on a lower efficiency. That's not bad defense either.

But here is why you don't get rid of Ben Gordon. On average, at every position, Ben Gordon outscored his opponent every season of his career.

Here is his shooting guard production and opponent production for each year.

04-05: Ben Gordon 29.1 PTS/48 vs. Opponent 18.9 PTS/48
05-06: Ben Gordon 26.6 PTS/48 vs. Opponent 19.1 PTS/48
06-07: Ben Gordon 29.6 PTS/48 vs. Opponent 19.4 PTS/48
07-08: Ben Gordon 28.4 PTS/48 vs. Opponent 23.1 PTS/48
08-09: Ben Gordon 26.2 PTS/48 vs. Opponent 20.6 PTS/48

Why would you want to get rid of a guy who outproduced his opponent in such a way, it's mind boggling.

As far as 2010 free agency, I don't see Wade coming to Chicago. I think when all is said and done, Wade will already have one teammate better than anyone on the Bulls (Michael Beasley), with the opportunity to add another player better than anyone on the Bulls (Chris Bosh/Lebron James/Amare Stoudemire/Dirk Nowitzki).

I think Wade is just doing a dance right now. The only reason he isn't signing an extension this summer is because he wants that extra year under the current CBA, which will probably be more player friendly than the next CBA.

I think Lebron is going to look really hard at signing with Miami. If he teams up with Wade and Beasley, the Heat could probably win 10 straight championships, and continue winning championships with Lebron/Beasley, even after Wade breaks down. The question is how does Lebron factor into his legacy that he was playing with two other stars in all or most of his championships.
 

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First and foremost, that shot did a lot of damage to the Bulls chances, totally stopped their momentum by taking a dumb ass shot. It is his IQ offensively that is most detrimental. After the game, Charles Barkley responded by stating that Gordon would be better suited off the bench. Doubt if he says that about many others in the league after a 30 point effort.

You made that point about the Pistons. The best player in 07 was Deng, the best player in that series was Deng. Fred's comments about Prince are unfounded. Deng came to play from game 1 and never let up, Gordon did not. Skiles is the main reason that team WON, not the reason that they lost any series. His big mishap in the second round was in game 3 when he didn't sit any of the starters when the Pistons made that big run from 20 down. He stayed with the starters and they were destroyed by a far better Pistons team.

Finally, saying Beasley is better than Rose is just outlandish. It is one thing to act as if Gordon is a perfect player....good luck with that. But the Beasley stuff is out of control. Get DWade a couple of beers sit him down and ask him who the better basketball player is, you couldn't get him drunk enough to pick Beasley over Rose...I guarantee you...
 

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