Chris Paul vs. Female Ref

[Diddy1122]

Completely overblown story thanks to the social media-driven society we live in. I can't speak entirely for CP3 not being a sexist, but it is obvious after hearing the comments that they were not meant to be sexist. The reaction to this is insanely idiotic imho. If it was a male rookie ref, the phrase would have been "maybe this isn't right for him".

I don't feel all of those techs were warranted but the one on Paul was absolutely legit. He rushed out at her, screaming and getting in her face. What the hell did he think would happen? And Jordan CLEARY screamed "GODDAMMIT!!" right at her when she didn't call a foul on his dunk. However, that first tech of the sequence was complete bullshit. Nothing in that play deserved a technical. I think the only person who has a legitimate beef is Matt Barnes. He didn't deserve his first tech at all. Though he should've just shut up after that and he didn't.

I think refs need to try and be more oblivious to some of the body language reactions that seem to get techs called. It's ok to let a players throw his hands up in frustration, or yell at himself, or mean mug. These are simple reactions in the highly emotional sports world. T'ing up players for it has always seemed dumb to me. Players going at each other, or swearing at refs, or fans, yes give them a T or toss them, but refs have got to learn how to focus more on the PLAYS and less on the REACTIONS all the time.

 

[Novoitus]

Don't watch the news? Lauren Holtkamp went full PMS during last night's game against Chris Paul.

sexism is alive and well

 

[Bear Pride]

I Love how people want to make it a sexist thing right away. :smh: The bottom line is Paul asked why she made a call and she T'd him up for no reason. It's a game full of adrenalin, and if she can't handle the pressure of someone asking why she made the call, which is the players right, then she should hang it up.

That's pretty much what Paul was saying. She could have just said "you got him on the arm", and then if Paul continued, then she could T him up. That's the difference. She's the one that said "uh, uh" first. What's that mean anyway?

 

[JimJohnson]

I Love how people want to make it a sexist thing right away. :smh: The bottom line is Paul asked why she made a call and she T'd him up for no reason. It's a game full of adrenalin, and if she can't handle the pressure of someone asking why she made the call, which is the players right, then she should hang it up.

That's pretty much what Paul was saying. She could have just said "you got him on the arm", and then if Paul continued, then she could T him up. That's the difference. She's the one that said "uh, uh" first. What's that mean anyway?

That's right. The **** thought she didn't owe Paul an explanation. How wrong she was.

 

[JimJohnson]

sexism is alive and well

Sexism is a made up word by the butt buddies of the female liberation party.

 

[Axl Rose]

what CP3 said wasn't sexist but i think female traits are the root here

she was being slow getting the ball and CP probably said something like "hurry the hell up" and that embarrassed her and way to get back at him was charge him with a tech

Jordan going down on the other end and getting mad for not getting a call and screaming out...she probably felt they were jumping on her so she called another one

sensitive

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Stupid ***** got what she deserved, sorry. If you can't handle it, go wash some fucking dishes.

Get a thicker skin or get the **** out.

 

[The Hawk]

For cripes sake, there are so many bad referees in basketball, why not have more women enter the league. Joey Crawford should have been kicked out of the league a long long time ago. wasn't he implicated in the cheating scandal that broke 10 years or so ago? Of all of the leagues, basketball is the worst officiated.

 

[The Hawk]

I hope that paul loses his insurance commercials. What a baby!

 

[JimJohnson]

I hope that paul loses his insurance commercials. What a baby!

Chris might, Cliff is safe though.

 

[Crystallas]

Of everything he has said, nothing was about her questionable techs stemming from her being a woman(other than maybe the fact that she is, and this is how a person would address someone, by saying; her,she). That is just how others have portrayed it. If he wants to ***** about calls, then fine, right or wrong. But to say he is bitching about calls because he doesn't think a female can referee in the NBA, that is total misconstruing and playing the gender card, for the sake of sensationalism.

It's funny to me that in this same thread, you have posters that want it both ways, PC and non-PC, only pending their own personal bias. Could Chris Paul have been more PC, as he later corrected himself and said that he should have said "rookie referee" instead? I really don't think so, because the media and the audience that wanted to draw the conclusions that they already have, would still say pretty much the same thing.

 

[2323]

Ken Mauer's t on Barnes is what got this started. Why isn't anyone saying, "maybe this isn't for him"? Just because a male referee has been doing it for a long time, it doesn't mean he's good. It's a league where officiating has been a joke for a long time. Even Silver has said its biggest problem is people questioning the legitimacy of outcomes. Now, suddenly, this female referee is the problem? Please.

 

[The Hawk]

what CP3 said wasn't sexist but i think female traits are the root here

she was being slow getting the ball and CP probably said something like "hurry the hell up" and that embarrassed her and way to get back at him was charge him with a tech

Jordan going down on the other end and getting mad for not getting a call and screaming out...she probably felt they were jumping on her so she called another one

sensitive

I didn't watch that game but I do know that the Clippers are big time whiners on the court. Paul, Jordan and Crawford especially while Barnes is a hothead. You touch any of those guys and they yelp like a kicked rat. So maybe there was some of that behind the refs finally having enough of it?

 

[houheffna]

The OP is an idiot.
Chris Paul's quote was blown out of proportion.
There is ample evidence that referees hold grudges, and as pointed out, the Clippers whine a lot.

 

[Novak]

lols bitches be crazy

 

[The Hawk]

Sexism is a made up word by the butt buddies of the female liberation party.

Did some woman get over on you once?

 

[JimJohnson]

Did some woman get over on you once?

Just your mom

 

[Icculus]

For cripes sake, there are so many bad referees in basketball, why not have more women enter the league. Joey Crawford should have been kicked out of the league a long long time ago. wasn't he implicated in the cheating scandal that broke 10 years or so ago? Of all of the leagues, basketball is the worst officiated.

That was Tim Donaghy who was betting on games he officiated.

 

[2323]

That was Tim Donaghy who was betting on games he officiated.

I think he's right. When this Donaghy stuff broke, there was a lot if talk of how certain referees move the betting lines. I kind of remember Bevetta and or Crawford being mentioned around this time.

 

[The Hawk]

That was Tim Donaghy who was betting on games he officiated.

Yeah, but I believe that he implicated a couple of other guys in doing the same thing and I think Crawford was one of them. I also remember some investigator who went back and showed how the spread moved on games when Crawford and a couple of other guys refereed against certain teams. All that I know is that I cannot stand Crawford. Even at the level that I was coaching back in the day, there were some umps and refs who came into the game with big time grudges and you always knew that you were going to get the shaft.