Does this simply come down to the likelihood Houston drafts second? They're that toxic he would pass on a chance to go #2? That says a lot, and it isn't good, about the Texans.
Sounds like maybe we should take him
Yes, to keep Indy from jumping them and taking the best QB in the draft...
I know you're just being obnoxious, but the issue is that Stroud for the most part absolutely disintegrates under pressure. Fields might hold the ball too long at times, but he's always looking to throw someone open or take off. Stroud has looked completely frightened and distraught under heavy pass rush.
He did that in the championship game. How often did he need to do that where it would have made a difference in the outcome of a game. The possible exception was against Michigan but it seems he learned that lesson very quickly.
Has he ever missed a game in college?
GMs evaluate differently than media expert pundits do. All I’m saying is that this conflict exists. If it does it exist, and he’s considering going back, there must be a reason other than love of the game for him going back. The financial consideration of NIL cash and a chance at first overall pick, sure, but why not come out this year and get the clock going? Maybe he got bad news that he won’t be top 5? Remember, Fields was a solid number two until he dropped like a number 2 to us at 11. There is precedent. All I’m saying is he may bet on himself and hedge those bets with available resources.
I mean, he's also in college. As an amateur, Fields' was only hurt on that dirty shot to the ribs he took against Clemson. Even then, he came back that series and threw a touchdown. Fields wasn't even a runner in college... he ran for less than 600 total yards in his 3 years IIRC. He's only running now out of necessity..
Fields ran for 383 yards in 8 games in his last college year. That's almost 50ypg. He ran plenty for a QB. I wouldn't project any of what you suggest for Stroud as there is absolutely no way to know. Burrow had taken over 3 sacks per game his 1st 2 years and turned out pretty good. They're all different and it's wrong to project beyond their overall goodness. The O with CJ would have been called differently.
While I agree with most of what you say, it is also very presumptious of you to assume he would be the number 3 or later pick next year. having another year under his belt could boost is draft stock for 2024, and some of these projected higher pick QB's could just as easlily, or even more likely, shit the bed as well.
Houston would not be oblivious to the fact their number 2 pick has more value than Indy's number 4. So assuming they will "outbid" Seattle is short sighted. If The Bears trade down to #4 very good chance bye bye to Carter and Anderson. A fact you don't seem to acknowledge.
You're referring to market and roster. The front office is a shit show.
I really don't think it changes much. Certain teams will prefer one or the other and even a 3rd. More teams thinking there guy might be gone is the buffer. Pick may become more or less valuable depending on circumstances surrounding preference and players.
It depends on what QB the teams willing to trade up were interested in. If they thought either Stroud or Young were worthy of trading up, then Stroud not being in the draft makes him staying in college more valuable to the Bears.
Any trade down that results in additional draft picks and still allows the Bears to take either Carter or Anderson is a win. Anything else is a crap shoot. 1st round picks fail all the time. Take the sure thing.
