Clearly our 1st round pick must be CB

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I think Smith (LB Notre Dame), Hargreaves (C Florida), and Ramsey (S/C FSU) should be the top
3 on the Bears board. All should be top 10 picks.
 

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I think Smith (LB Notre Dame), Hargreaves (C Florida), and Ramsey (S/C FSU) should be the top
3 on the Bears board. All should be top 10 picks.
I like these guys as potential Bears. At this point, I think CB is a bigger need than ILB. While I like Hargreaves, I think Ramsey should be the pick. I think he has the best man coverage and the best potential of any corner in this upcoming draft.
 
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I like these guys as potential Bears. At this point, I think CB is a bigger need than ILB. While I like Hargreaves, I think Ramsey should be the pick. I think he has the best man coverage and the best potential of any corner in this upcoming draft.

I'm with you as corner as the bigger need, but if you think Jaylon is the superior player you draft him. I too would draft Ramsey ahead of Hargreaves. There are some corners I like in the 2nd/3rd round territory as well, and hopefully they target Norman in FA.
 

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So much must draft this must draft that early talk on here, if anything has been proposed on the path of what this GMs desire to do is to ignore that Must draft position X element from the view of early picks.
 

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Those plays and throws (resulting in PI) don't happen if a rush occurs.

There are few truly great DBs. Perhaps 2 'shutdown' corners in all of football? Most great DBs are made great by a great front 7 in front of them or safeties along side of them.

Same goes for RB. Emmett Smith has the record but got it playing behind one of the best o-lines in the history of the NFL (and a great blocking tight end) AND with one of the best QBs of all time throwing to one of the best tight ends of all time and one of the best WR of all time. Lots of other places for the D to place their attention. Compare to Walter to played behind shit lines for the early/mid parts of his career and with very few other offensive weapons.

yeah I know what you're saying, but it seems our CBs are PI machines regardless of pass rush because of bad technique. I don't think it takes a "shutdown" corner to remedy the problem. The corners on this team often get caught flat-footed at the snap, trail, then commit PI. That has zero to do with the pass rush.
 

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I need to get with the times. Wasn't Hall a disappointment early in his career and is Sean smith really that good? And why is Ball rated so high? Is this next offseason a bad year for fa cbs? Aside from Prince, looks like garbage

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I believe Josh Norman, Trumaine Johnson, and Casey Heyward are the best corners available.
 

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Idk one of the top corners is guy name Kendall fuller if you hate kyle I'm pretty sure you'll hate Kendall FYI I like kyle he's getting better and would love Kendall but he is short
 

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Idk one of the top corners is guy name Kendall fuller if you hate kyle I'm pretty sure you'll hate Kendall FYI I like kyle he's getting better and would love Kendall but he is short

Kendall is not good. He's overrated.
 

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Corner is the 2nd hardest position to play. If your pass rush sucks, it makes your job even harder. I think you're overreacting about Fuller..
 

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Corner is the 2nd hardest position to play. If your pass rush sucks, it makes your job even harder. I think you're overreacting about Fuller..

that and let's just totally forget that he played in Mel Tucker's dysfunctional assface defense the rest of his career outside 6 games.
 

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unless your drafting the next sherman or revis in the 1st round its not worth drafting a cb in the 1st. like other posters have mentioned, 95% of cb's depend on the pass rush and so drafting a cb high really is a wasted pick. If you are picking a cb in the top 15 you should expect him to a shutdown corner or very close to it.

recent 1st round cb picks
2015 - 1st - 11 trae waynes - jury is out
2014 - 1st - 9 justin gilbert - bust so far
2014 - 1st - 14 kyle fuller - bust so far
2013 - 1st - 9 dee milliner - buist so far
2013 - 1st - 14 dj hayden - bust so far
Most starting corners in the League are 1st or 2nd round picks. The odds of finding a good corner past those rounds are slim compared to the other positions outside of QB...
 

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He has to play facing the offense. He might be a safety but he can't be a cover corner. Eifert was playing with another established starting TE at first and wasn't functionally incapable at his position. Different situation.

Fuller has shown plenty he's not functionally incapable and fully capable. He needs work on week to week consistency. It's odd, Fulller was the talk of of preseason and then week one and week two then three straight games he played fine and then struggled against Calvin Johnson.
 

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This thread sucks.

The only way to replace the former first round corner is to draft a corner in the first round?

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[VINE][/VINE]Corner is a huge need whether Fuller is your #2, #3, or nothing.
I expect an investment of a draft pick AND a free agent will be placed there.

ILB also needs a high pick. The o-line might be ok. I think we have some pieces there. If Bushrod were to leave, you still might survive if you slide Long to LT.

If we pick very early, the 295 lb 3-4 DE at Mississippi would be my choice. Ego-Goldman-Ndemiche (future)

I'm fine with Acho/McPhee at OLB. We could throw away a lot of picks trying to do better than that, and high ones. I'd wait and see if you could pry Von Miller or Aldon Smith since we have connections to two free agents I would die for.
 

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The NFL prospect evaluation process is in it's very early phases. In short you have very little idea how these prospects compare to each other let alone where the team is picking.

This is suck a donkey thread.

BTW, Donkey is worse than Meatball.
 

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I just wish our cbs would turn around and play the Damn ball
 
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Irregardless of fullers progression - clearly the cb position is a position of need. Whether that is chosen to be addressed in the first round next year is hard to say but if the right guy is there I'm all for it.

What does "irregardless" mean?
 

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I really do not think that Fuller is that bad as far as talent. I think that his problem is technique. He really doesn't get out of position for the most part but when the ball is in the air he loses it or cannot read it well enough to turn his head and THEN make a play on the ball or the receiver. To me, that is where coaching comes in. If he didn't have the physical ability to make plays defensively, it would be a different matter. Bottom line, he has too much natural talent to give up on him at this point.
 

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