Coaching /GM Interview Tracker (Cunningham makes second round interviews in Jax)

[remydat]

Because everything has growth with or without the Rooney Rule.

Yeah i understand why they made the Rooney Rule but many of those interviews are nothing more than a mirage to fill their part of the Rooney Rule so not sure how much these guys are getting from these interviews when they're meaningless. At least they'll get it out there that they've been interviewed for the highest coaching position.

But there is no way to prove your assertion. This becomes a case where you cry about the Rooney rule anytime you feel someone is a weaker candidate or you claim the Rooney Rule isnt the reason Poles or Brad Holmes got a job because well they would have been interviewed anyways. Ignoring of course they may have been one of those weaker candidates in a previous hiring cycle who got an interview and feedback which helped prepare them for the job they did get.

What makes the crying even dumber is the Bears have interviewed a bunch of weaker white candidates but when weak white candidates get an interview no one cries about that to the same extent. Or let me guess you think the Iowa St coach is a fine candidate?

 

[TL1961]

At this point, does anyone support the Rooney rule? I think it’s a complete disgrace. I mean, I get it Mike Tomlin was a RR hire, but he was a NFL DC on the rise and already had a SB ring as a DB coach. That is outlier interview the rest of the interviews are completely failing to meet the purpose.

I'm not supporting it or commenting on it in any way except to say that teams need to comply with it, and complaining that the Bears will do so before making a hire is ignorant of how the process needs to play out. A team cannot make a hire without having satisfied the requirements.

 

[EMAN]

Here is what’s going to happen. Johnson is going to interview with all 3 teams probably Tuesday - Thursday. Then pick a team Friday based on who offers the most money. I think he is fine with all 3 teams.

He knows what team he wants the other 2 teams is there to get a better contract in terms of years and dollar amount.

 

[TL1961]

Guess you missed this post I made because, yes, I did consider it.

No, your reply that you think I missed makes my point.

You are suggesting quite clearly that they are only interviewing George to satisfy the Rooney Rule and that he cant possibly be a legit candidate. And you're basing that on a college record that doesn't lok good enough to you because you ignore that he turned around a terrible program.

I am not campaigning for hiring Eddie George. I don't know enough about his coaching. I am simply stating that publicly stating it is only to satisfy RR is completely speculative and dismissive of the candidate itself.

 

[Canth]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881056464934191557

 

[dabears70]

But there is no way to prove your assertion. This becomes a case where you cry about the Rooney rule anytime you feel someone is a weaker candidate or you claim the Rooney Rule isnt the reason Poles or Brad Holmes got a job because well they would have been interviewed anyways. Ignoring of course they may have been one of those weaker candidates in a previous hiring cycle who got an interview and feedback which helped prepare them for the job they did get.

What makes the crying even dumber is the Bears have interviewed a bunch of weaker white candidates but when weak white candidates get an interview no one cries about that to the same extent. Or let me guess you think the Iowa St coach is a fine candidate?

There's no way to prove your assertion either which was my point anyway.

Let me know when they come up with a Whitey Rule for people to actually have a reason to talk about if it's working or not. DERP.

 

[remydat]

No, your reply that you think I missed makes my point.

You are suggesting quite clearly that they are only interviewing George to satisfy the Rooney Rule and that he cant possibly be a legit candidate. And you're basing that on a college record that doesn't lok good enough to you because you ignore that he turned around a terrible program.

I am not campaigning for hiring Eddie George. I don't know enough about his coaching. I am simply stating that publicly stating it is only to satisfy RR is completely speculative and dismissive of the candidate itself.

The reality is the Bears have interviewed a wide variety of lesser known candidates whether they are white or minority so don't think George is strictly Rooney rule. He is likely in the category of guys like Campbell, Stenavich, Smith, Weaver, Kafka, Petzing where the Bears want to hear different ideas and possibly get a head start on building out the staff.

And those guys accept because it gives them valuable experience regarding how the interview process works as well as feedback on what development they need to improve themselves. Most guys rarely get hired the first time they interview.

 

[iueyedoc]

I hear its the main reason he wants to go to the raiders, so he can have hooker start

Well it is the right place to have a whole host of hookers to choose from that will start and finish for the right amount of money.

 

[Canth]

There's no way to prove your assertion either which was my point anyway.

Let me know when they come up with a Whitey Rule for people to actually have a reason to talk about if it's working or not. DERP.

Not to derail the thread, so I will just do the one reply.

I think you are forgetting the genesis of the Rooney Rule and how long it's been around. It was implemented in 2003. At the time it implemented, there had only ever been a total of 6 minority HC's in the NFL. In it's entire history.

It's pretty dumb to think that the Rooney rule has had no effect in giving minorities a chance that they otherwise probably would not have gotten over the past 20+ years.

Although, I do think the even bigger effect now is how they have carried it down to the coordinator level - especially at OC.

IMO, it gives people a chance that they probably would otherwise not receive to learn the process, learn what owners and GM's are really looking for, and hopefully get feedback to make themselves better. At least that's how I think of it.

Rooney Rule - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[remydat]

There's no way to prove your assertion either which was my point anyway.

Let me know when they come up with a Whitey Rule for people to actually have a reason to talk about if it's working or not. DERP.

Generally if you want to change the status quo you have to prove there is something wrong with it and you agree you cant. So I see no reason to change the Rooney Rule when there are more minorities than ever before and there isnt any proof of there being something significantly wrong with it.

Finally we dont need a whitey rule because white people have never had a problem getting jobs in the NFL. If this has to be explained to you then I think your understanding of not just NFL but US history needs a refresher.

 

[Canth]

Take with a grain of salt, but interesting take none the less:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881061563039457315

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Not to derail the thread, so I will just do the one reply.

I think you are forgetting the genesis of the Rooney Rule and how long it's been around. It was implemented in 2003. At the time it implemented, there had only ever been a total of 6 minority HC's in the NFL. In it's entire history.

It's pretty dumb to think that the Rooney rule has had no effect in giving minorities a chance that they otherwise probably would not have gotten over the past 20+ years.

Although, I do think the even bigger effect now is how they have carried it down to the coordinator level - especially at OC.

IMO, it gives people a chance that they probably would otherwise not receive to learn the process, learn what owners and GM's are really looking for, and hopefully get feedback to make themselves better. At least that's how I think of it.

Rooney Rule - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yup. It’s about opportunity. Doesn’t mean they are considering you. But maybe, just maybe, you can persuade them, and they change their minds. Later in the future, it will be more diverse. But let’s not forget, if the owner thinks a specific person is their best candidate for the head coach, it because of what they bring to the table. No matter what skin color they have. If that means 27 owners thought that 27 Hispanic guys were the best candidate for their teams, that’s just what it was. They just happened to be Hispanic. Same goes if they were black, white, etc.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Take with a grain of salt, but interesting take none the less:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881061563039457315

Was about to post this.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Was about to post this.

Was about to give a flying fuc*…

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881069441393504697

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1880618722240733494

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881069441393504697

Ok. RR completed. Good to know.

 

[satchice]

But there is no way to prove your assertion. This becomes a case where you cry about the Rooney rule anytime you feel someone is a weaker candidate or you claim the Rooney Rule isnt the reason Poles or Brad Holmes got a job because well they would have been interviewed anyways. Ignoring of course they may have been one of those weaker candidates in a previous hiring cycle who got an interview and feedback which helped prepare them for the job they did get.

What makes the crying even dumber is the Bears have interviewed a bunch of weaker white candidates but when weak white candidates get an interview no one cries about that to the same extent. Or let me guess you think the Iowa St coach is a fine candidate?

You sound racist, just the fact that you notice those things. Isn’t time to move on already?

 

[Hawkeye OG]

Complete circus

 

[satchice]

The reality is the Bears have interviewed a wide variety of lesser known candidates whether they are white or minority so don't think George is strictly Rooney rule. He is likely in the category of guys like Campbell, Stenavich, Smith, Weaver, Kafka, Petzing where the Bears want to hear different ideas and possibly get a head start on building out the staff.

And those guys accept because it gives them valuable experience regarding how the interview process works as well as feedback on what development they need to improve themselves. Most guys rarely get hired the first time they interview.

You know what would make sense is if they changed the RR to be enforced after the HC is hired, so the candidates that would get overlooked like Eddie George, do you get a chance to go though the interview process for a running backs coach or even offense coordinator to fill out the staff.