CUBS ACQUIRE TUCKER !!!!!

beckdawg

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I agree any move like this is dumb if they don't re-sign him. I'd offer him 10 years 450 million today.

I dont think the 3b hole is an issue though because I think they could sign a FA better than Paredes. I also think shaw or triantos will be the best 3b they've had since Bryant
Re 3B, i think shaw could be good but my point was more it's a complete unknown at the moment and phrased it that way because if you're looking at this as a win now move you can't have a giant unknown at 3B.
 

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So this was a job save deal.
I see people say this but I don't buy it. If the team wins 88 wins or whatever and barely squeaks into the playoffs and first round exits is the situation really any different from ownerships stand point? In my view ownership and jed are on the same page. And that page is to limit spending and build a development engine akin to say cleveland with more money or maybe Atlanta is a better comp.

And I mean I get why fans are pissed at jed but if you're viewing this from ownerships eyes I don't think there's any way you are upset. There's clearly a limit you've put on his spending. And if you're evaluating what he's done with what he's given i think you'd be hard pressed to say it's "bad". He's obviously been conservative in FA but what he has done has been very successful from Shota to the initial Belli signing. On top of that the cubs have built one of the best farm systems in baseball with numerous of their top picks making immediate impacts.

So in that light I don't really see how he's playing for his job in 2025. Pretty sure what he has done is the organizational plan whether we like it or not.
 

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I see people say this but I don't buy it. If the team wins 88 wins or whatever and barely squeaks into the playoffs and first round exits is the situation really any different from ownerships stand point? In my view ownership and jed are on the same page. And that page is to limit spending and build a development engine akin to say cleveland with more money or maybe Atlanta is a better comp.

And I mean I get why fans are pissed at jed but if you're viewing this from ownerships eyes I don't think there's any way you are upset. There's clearly a limit you've put on his spending. And if you're evaluating what he's done with what he's given i think you'd be hard pressed to say it's "bad". He's obviously been conservative in FA but what he has done has been very successful from Shota to the initial Belli signing. On top of that the cubs have built one of the best farm systems in baseball with numerous of their top picks making immediate impacts.

So in that light I don't really see how he's playing for his job in 2025. Pretty sure what he has done is the organizational plan whether we like it or not.

I do, He cut most filler deals to create payroll. Then he made an out of left field deal that added wins to the team at a OF spot that is back filled by NTC, over paid deal and 3 top prospects.

He could have done nothing. Bring up Caissie for injury relief. Same with Shaw. Trade out Cody and Nico in July and start both. Seems like the safe play.

But this is Jed's walk year. No he is being pretty aggressive right now. He really doesn't need to. So that sense of urgency is happening that has not in the past.

I don't look at excuses for answers myself. I look at actions that tell a story. These moves are telling a story, it is called win in 2025.

Jed has put up some great mouth drivel in the past. That is not happening right now. I'm seeing some moves with the intention to win.
 

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Re 3B, i think shaw could be good but my point was more it's a complete unknown at the moment and phrased it that way because if you're looking at this as a win now move you can't have a giant unknown at 3B.

I do believe that they will bring in a insurance piece. Mocina at 3B until Hoerner is back and Shaw at 2B. Then Mocina becomes a bench player that gives injury depth.

It is pretty low on the priorities but you never know if he figures it out and the Cubs reap some beni out of it. Not a unique thing at all for this to happen.

I believe the hold up is Cashman and Hoyer fighting over 5M on Cody
 

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I do believe that they will bring in a insurance piece. Mocina at 3B until Hoerner is back and Shaw at 2B. Then Mocina becomes a bench player that gives injury depth.

It is pretty low on the priorities but you never know if he figures it out and the Cubs reap some beni out of it. Not a unique thing at all for this to happen.

I believe the hold up is Cashman and Hoyer fighting over 5M on Cody
Who the heck is Mocina?
 

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I do, He cut most filler deals to create payroll. Then he made an out of left field deal that added wins to the team at a OF spot that is back filled by NTC, over paid deal and 3 top prospects.

He could have done nothing. Bring up Caissie for injury relief. Same with Shaw. Trade out Cody and Nico in July and start both. Seems like the safe play.

But this is Jed's walk year. No he is being pretty aggressive right now. He really doesn't need to. So that sense of urgency is happening that has not in the past.

I don't look at excuses for answers myself. I look at actions that tell a story. These moves are telling a story, it is called win in 2025.

Jed has put up some great mouth drivel in the past. That is not happening right now. I'm seeing some moves with the intention to win.
Realistically the only moves the last 2 year of contention he could have done was sign Ohtani in 2023 or a SS in 2022. He signed the short stop that has performed the best and had no chance at Ohtani and I believe their offer was somewhere between 500-600 million for him. This year it was 50 million a year to Soto or trade for one year of Tucker in hopes he can sign here.

So you are not really basing this on reality as he has made two bold moves in 2022 and 2023 and hit on one moreso in 2024. He's been patient to make the right moves and not spend bad money, the Swanson deal was the cheapest shortstop and also the best WAR performance of that big 4 so far.
 

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One in 60 plus years....LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Nice choice of teams. Look at the teams under my avatar, dumbass. I've been witness to 11....even the fucking White Sox won one. You really know how to pick'em, ace.
well I am a Bulls and Canadiens fan, so suck on my dust
 

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