Cubs Leadoff spot is jinxed - Put Javy there!

[Raskolnikov]

At Zobrist's age you can't rely on him to ever get back to fastball speed.

 

[CSF77]

At Zobrist's age you can't rely on him to ever get back to fastball speed.

If that is the case then why not go dead red on him.

 

[CSF77]

ahhh, I was afraid to ask to be honest. Thats the best solution unless Scwarber gets hot.

Joe will do what he is going to do regardless of the results. He has proven that over and over again.

 

[Parade_Rain]

LOL.....just thinking how much dumb shit this guy has had to post before someone here would even acknowledge that he exists. That being said, he looks like a genius compared to DorkJohnson.

I don’t mind Anotheridiot. At least he is a legit fan unlike the dork.

 

[TL1961]

Schwarber or Rizzo are your best options, to at least take alot of pitches.

With Rizzo's decline in power, despite his lack of speed, and other power that has emerged like Baez who can bat 3..

Rizzo
Bryant
Baez

with Heyward in the 9 hole to separate them from pitcher a bit....is how I would begin. Heyward should get pitches to hit in that scenario, and so should Bryant. After that structure, the rest of the guys should probably be ordered situationally based on the matchup.

I told you a month ago Heyward wasn't a lead-off hitter, as we have seen this several times and not just as a cub. He is an ideal 9 and will pay dividends there while being a shut-down defender. 200,000,000 be damned...its where he belongs.

I thought this organization was supposed to be analytics buffs but I think they out smart themselves too often.

Everybody got off on Rizzo at leadoff but the offense stalls when he is there. He hits a HR and we score 2 all game. He is the worst baserunner ever but is an excellent rbi guy. Batting him leadoff is not smart.

 

[anotheridiot]

WTF is BABIP doing in a discussion of lead off. OBP is king. Baez is 16th on the team in OBP. Now for qualified players, that means he is behind Rizzo, Castellanos, Bryant, Contreras, Bote, Heyward, Happ, Schwarber, more.

It is taking away some of the dire need for walks to get on base more often. When he swings the bat at a baseball, he get on base over1 out of three times. That just has to make at least a little sense to some people here. We would prefer his OBA be .345 because he took 40 walks this year, which would mean he could be more league average of hitting less than .300 when he does actually hit the baseball.

I know its OK for KB or Tony to take walks in RBI spots, but Javy just wants to hit the ball to get on base.

Javy leads the league in opposite field home runs. So he also spreads the ball around. I believe Schwarber is second with blasts.

 

[anotheridiot]

Everybody got off on Rizzo at leadoff but the offense stalls when he is there. He hits a HR and we score 2 all game. He is the worst baserunner ever but is an excellent rbi guy. Batting him leadoff is not smart.

That is pretty much what Heyward has done at leadoff too, hit some home runs. The Rizzo base running is why there should be no reason he is clogging the base paths for Javy, KB or Nick. No doubt Rizzo takes 7 or 8 games off and Maddon is putting him right back in the 4 hole to just clog for Javy again.

 

[CSF77]

That is pretty much what Heyward has done at leadoff too, hit some home runs. The Rizzo base running is why there should be no reason he is clogging the base paths for Javy, KB or Nick. No doubt Rizzo takes 7 or 8 games off and Maddon is putting him right back in the 4 hole to just clog for Javy again.

This has to be the stupidest statement of all time.

It is 'bad' to get on base. Because he will 'clog up' the bases.

No it is far 'better' to have 'no one' on so Javy can show off his 'cool moves' on the bases.

Baseball showboat 101 at work here. **** winning a game just bling baby.

 

[anotheridiot]

This has to be the stupidest statement of all time.

It is 'bad' to get on base. Because he will 'clog up' the bases.

No it is far 'better' to have 'no one' on so Javy can show off his 'cool moves' on the bases.

Baseball showboat 101 at work here. **** winning a game just bling baby.

You win the game by crossing home plate and you are telling me that the cubs, with their terrible history of hitting with runners in scoring position, are at an advantage with a guy stopping at third base and keeping the runner behind him at second base.

Yeah, that makes so much more sense. Almost as much as wanting the RBI guys to take walks instead of using the opposite field.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[CSF77]

You win the game by crossing home plate and you are telling me that the cubs, with their terrible history of hitting with runners in scoring position, are at an advantage with a guy stopping at third base and keeping the runner behind him at second base.

Yeah, that makes so much more sense. Almost as much as wanting the RBI guys to take walks instead of using the opposite field.

Pot, meet kettle.

Odds are better with a man on base to score a run. You can not go and say he sucks in situations thus you don't want baserunners.

A intellengent approach is to set up a line up according to stats.

Stats are your odds

So high OBA top

High contact after. Thus BABIP and RISP are factored after.

 

[Diehardfan]

LOL@the old Dusty Baker clog the bases scenario. Incredibly inane even by the Idiot's standards.

 

[anotheridiot]

All I am trying to say, is when Javy takes regular at bat, he gets on base at a rate of .310.

When he swings and hits a fair ball, he gets on base at a .345 clip.

That is where BABIP comes in to his equation.

I still want Javy to slap Rizzo on the ass as they both cross home plate one of these days.

 

[anotheridiot]

Great game for Javy, two walks.

Something I really do not want to see posted on a daily basis, but apparently what he needs to stay in the leadoff spot. Of course the thumb injury, possible neck injury from the collision with Arcia and 35 guys on the bench will probably end his leadoff streak at 1 again.

 

[anotheridiot]

Nico has been called up to help at SS. Sucks it starts with three late night games in chicago, sure hope he gets a shot right away.

 

[Castor76]

Just for a few points of information. So far this season and going back to the 2015 season, there hasn't been season with more than 11 OBP above 400. Highest number of above 360 OBP is 41. And for guys with 300 or more PA at leadoff with OBP of 360 or higher, the most is 11.

I'm not a big fan of "working the count", because it doesn't work like you'd think it does. Players get on base not much more if they take a count past 3 pitches, and their Slugging is miniscule compared to putting an early pitch into play. For a 12 point drop in OBP, you gain 157 points in SLG.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Schwarber or Rizzo are your best options, to at least take alot of pitches.

With Rizzo's decline in power, despite his lack of speed, and other power that has emerged like Baez who can bat 3..

Rizzo
Bryant
Baez

with Heyward in the 9 hole to separate them from pitcher a bit....is how I would begin. Heyward should get pitches to hit in that scenario, and so should Bryant. After that structure, the rest of the guys should probably be ordered situationally based on the matchup.

I told you a month ago Heyward wasn't a lead-off hitter, as we have seen this several times and not just as a cub. He is an ideal 9 and will pay dividends there while being a shut-down defender. 200,000,000 be damned...its where he belongs.

I thought this organization was supposed to be analytics buffs but I think they out smart themselves too often.

Yeah...Rizzo is really the only solution here currently. He makes use of the extra at bats and is the hardest out. Took an outsider to see clearly, but at least Maddon landed their eventually.

Rizzo reminds me of Todd Helton in that spot, or a Mark Grace. He is the team leader and if nobody else can do it, he will.

They got their mojo back.

 

[CSF77]

Yeah...Rizzo is really the only solution here currently. He makes use of the extra at bats and is the hardest out. Took an outsider to see clearly, but at least Maddon landed their eventually.

Rizzo reminds me of Todd Helton in that spot, or a Mark Grace. He is the team leader and if nobody else can do it, he will.

They got their mojo back.

He is ranked #7 in MLB in OBA. #47 in SLG. His skill set is more suited to table setter vs cleaner.