Cubs selling early

[KBisBack!]

With that said, if Garza and Shark are extended, how many years into their contracts will the Cubs be if and when they are competitive?

But does not extending them make the Cubs competitive sooner?

Not extending either player likely pushes the time table back even further than it already has been before the team is competitive.

 

[Boobaby1]

But does not extending them make the Cubs competitive sooner?

Not extending either player likely pushes the time table back even further than it already has been before the team is competitive.

True! But what year do you honestly think the Cubs will be ready to make a push considering what has been brought in to date? Management will be the only ones who change my ways of thinking.

 

[chibears55]

lol..so by me saying they can always make a FA offer to him this offseason, if they do trade him. You all just had to turn it into me suggesting that what they should do. nice twist, I can see why you get into a lot of arguments. .lol.

yes I think they should be trying to extend him now but to date we haven't heard of any such talks happening. so, im just saying that if they dont have an extension agreement by the deadline they would probably take the best offer if its to their liking over a draft pick if garza not even willing to accept ARB from them

 

[patg006]

lol..so by me saying they can always make a FA offer to him this offseason, if they do trade him. You all just had to turn it into me suggesting that what they should do. nice twist, I can see why you get into a lot of arguments. .lol.

Stop instigating.

You proposed the idea that the cubs trade Garza for prospects, then attempt to sign him in the offseason for a win-win situation.

It was pointed back out to you the chance of that happening is ultimately slim (like once in a generation slim as it is rare when this kind of thing happens,) especially since Garza will be a heavily saught after pitcher this offseason.

Please do not deviate from the topic, or the Mods will be informed.

Thank you.

 

[chibears55]

Stop instigating.

You proposed the idea that the cubs trade Garza for prospects, then attempt to sign him in the offseason for a win-win situation.

It was pointed back out to you the chance of that happening is ultimately slim (like once in a generation slim as it is rare when this kind of thing happens,) especially since Garza will be a heavily saught after pitcher this offseason.

Please do not deviate from the topic, or the Mods will be informed.

Thank you.

instigating ?? where the hell do you get me instigating something from ?
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nice twist, I can see why you get into a lot of arguments. .lol.

lol.. seriously ?

You proposed the idea that the cubs trade Garza for prospects, then attempt to sign him in the offseason for a win-win situation.

ummm. where do you get a proposed idea from this statement ?

They can always make a FA offer for garza to return in off season

thats just a statement, not an idea or suggestion.

Please do not deviate from the topic, or the Mods will be informed.

i believe the topic is 'cubs selling early ", which i was discussing matt garza, whom i said the cubs may choose to trade for prospects over just recieving a draft pick for.

thank you..

 

[CSF77]

Option 1: extend. Option 2: offer Arb and get pick. On what we know. Now if Garza has said behind closed doors: I like being a Cub but my desire to win a ring in the next 3 years has a greater pull. And the Ricketts are playing the " it is no a sprint but a marathon" mantra; well it is what it is. I would accept no less than what I would get in a comp. that is in projected talent not time table BS. That is all BS anyways. Get 2 players like Villenueva (who sucks as a hitting 3B/want to argue I'll point atBryant and say that the brain trust agrees). And a SP that is doing better than his talent level projects. Sorry I'd rather have Johnson over those 2. He has MLB quality talent vs MLB buster talent.

 

[daddies3angels]

Selling early??

Cubs been selling since Ricketts became the owner

 

[Boobaby1]

Yeah, but now they actually have some talent to move if they choose to.




Caviar.

 

[CSF77]

Yeah, but now they actually have some talent to move if they choose to.




Caviar.

Had that last year and got A broken Vizcaino and Jaye Chapman who is nailing it with a 17.05 ERA in AAA.... That cost 2 proven vets. Great return.....


Now for a top of the rotation:

Kyle Hendricks: Remember this: The ability to throw hard simply gives you more margin for error. You miss your spots and you can often get away with it because hitters can't always catch up to your mistakes.

Other words he has to be spot on or he is not going to cut it. His fastball is in the 87-90 MPH range. He has to be perfect in location every time out with that.

That is why I'm not being overly excited about what he is doing in AA right now. As he progresses the hitting progresses also.

Then Christian Villanueva who looks to be a bust in AA. .259/.324/.426 6 HR at a premium power position. Now we know why they jumped at Bryant's 31 HR.



So in view of this I trust getting a quality return with Jason McLeod and his team of scouts to find a quality comp pick vs Jed Hoyer who has a crummy track record on making trades thus far.

 

[mountsalami]

Had that last year and got A broken Vizcaino and Jaye Chapman who is nailing it with a 17.05 ERA in AAA.... That cost 2 proven vets. Great return.....


Now for a top of the rotation:

Kyle Hendricks: Remember this: The ability to throw hard simply gives you more margin for error. You miss your spots and you can often get away with it because hitters can't always catch up to your mistakes.

Other words he has to be spot on or he is not going to cut it. His fastball is in the 87-90 MPH range. He has to be perfect in location every time out with that.

That is why I'm not being overly excited about what he is doing in AA right now. As he progresses the hitting progresses also.

Then Christian Villanueva who looks to be a bust in AA. .259/.324/.426 6 HR at a premium power position. Now we know why they jumped at Bryant's 31 HR.



So in view of this I trust getting a quality return with Jason McLeod and his team of scouts to find a quality comp pick vs Jed Hoyer who has a crummy track record on making trades thus far.

I'm not so sure why you are being so negative CSF.

The media thinks we have one of the best front offices in baseball. They have done very little to discredit themselves. Soto sucked because of Jim Hendry and the poor coaching. Now we have much better coaching and they all are on the same page because of the Cubs Way thing.

They didn't have a guide to success before Theo came out with the team manual. Christian is going to be just fine. He's like 160lbs of pure testosterone and I'm looking for him to hit 20-30 home runs at the ML level before long. I really believe Jaye Chapman has just hit a small slump. All acrossed AAA this year hitting has been abnormally overpowering the pitching, thus unfairly scewing the pitching numbers. With pitching being weak at the minor league level for the Cubs it only gets magnified a bit more than normal.

Chapman and Christian are here because they fit the mold of what Theo wants in a ball player. Cameron Loe must have done something wrong to get DFA'd because you know Theo wouldn't have brought a player on board that didn't fit his strict credentials. You can pitch bad and hit bad for the Cubs as long as you follow the rules of conduct.

I think we are on the right path.







Creme.

 

[daddies3angels]

I'm not so sure why you are being so negative CSF.

The media thinks we have one of the best front offices in baseball. They have done very little to discredit themselves. Soto sucked because of Jim Hendry and the poor coaching. Now we have much better coaching and they all are on the same page because of the Cubs Way thing.

They didn't have a guide to success before Theo came out with the team manual. Christian is going to be just fine. He's like 160lbs of pure testosterone and I'm looking for him to hit 20-30 home runs at the ML level before long. I really believe Jaye Chapman has just hit a small slump. All acrossed AAA this year hitting has been abnormally overpowering the pitching, thus unfairly scewing the pitching numbers. With pitching being weak at the minor league level for the Cubs it only gets magnified a bit more than normal.

Chapman and Christian are here because they fit the mold of what Theo wants in a ball player. Cameron Loe must have done something wrong to get DFA'd because you know Theo wouldn't have brought a player on board that didn't fit his strict credentials. You can pitch bad and hit bad for the Cubs as long as you follow the rules of conduct.

I think we are on the right path.







Creme.

I think i missed something here. So the plan to just agree with Cubs no matter what here to make everyone happy???

 

[The Bandit]

Who would of thought we'd be in the selling option this year... hopefully the last year of this, 2014 by what I've thought so far is when the team is to turn the corner to at least some improvement.

 

[AmericanFlyer1]

I think i missed something here. So the plan to just agree with Cubs no matter what here to make everyone happy???

Some would have you believe that.