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10-6 the year after Shanahan left. Top 10 in yards (offense) every year. ?
lol at this idea that we should entertain Quinn because it‘s possible he could hire a good offensive coordinator because he hired Shanahan. Like Shanahan was toiling in the film room of the Redskins and Dan Quinn discovered him like a diamond in the rough. Do you understand the chances that Quinn would make such a great hire again? Do you understand how much of it is really just sort of luck? Who was the guru Quinn brought in to coach the Atlanta offense after Shanahan left? Was it McVay? I can’t remember. It’s laughable that Dan Quinn is this guru at finding offensive coordinators. Like he has a gift. And the Bears should entertain him as head coach because he hired Kyle Shanahan ten years ago or whenever it was. Jesus F’ing Christ,
Kinda doesTwo years. They were together for two years. That doesn’t “make” anyones career.
And that is why they are losing their OC. Sometimes the Coordinator is better and the reason why the HC is successful. Examples Vic and Nagy or Shanahan and Quinn or Buddy Ryan and DitkaHe's responding to someone saying the HC needs to be offensive minded, but Buffalo has a defensive HC and has developed Allen.
I would think they should hire him based on who he plans to make OC now which they know and you dont so you are whining based on incomplete info.
The point about Shanny was he did not make. The dude was literally an OC under his daddy and then failed with the Browns. He needed Quinn and Atl to show he could succeed outside his Daddy's shadow.
lol at this idea that we should entertain Quinn because it‘s possible he could hire a good offensive coordinator because he hired Shanahan. Like Shanahan was toiling in the film room of the Redskins and Dan Quinn discovered him like a diamond in the rough. Do you understand the chances that Quinn would make such a great hire again? Do you understand how much of it is really just sort of luck? Who was the guru Quinn brought in to coach the Atlanta offense after Shanahan left? Was it McVay? I can’t remember. It’s laughable that Dan Quinn is this guru at finding offensive coordinators. Like he has a gift. And the Bears should entertain him as head coach because he hired Kyle Shanahan ten years ago or whenever it was. Jesus F’ing Christ,
No we are just calling a spade a spade. Daboll and Shanny are both great OCs that previously worked for the Browns and had bad seasons. That just proves that you can have a great OC and no talent on the offense and the results will be a poor offense. Why do you say Daboll was a failed OC? Because he was a OC for 1 year with the Browns, 1 year with the Jets, and 1 year with the Dolphins? So in your view if you take over a bad team and only have 1 year to install your offense and identify your personals strengths and if you don't turn that unit around in the same year then, you are saying that person is a failure?Kyle Shanny looked like a nepotism hire before Quinn brought him to Atl. He got run out of town with his daddy in Wash and had a bottom tier O with the Browns. Quinn made Shanny by giving him a chance to work with elite talent.
Yall acting like guys like Daboll and Shanny had top offenses before McDermott and Quinn gave them a shot.
There is no offensive coordinator that exists that we know for sure would be a success. So it doesn’t matter. And if this special coordinator exists then he should be a HC candidate anyway. Why would I need Quinn?
What name attached to Quinn as OC do you hear and think you must hire Quinn to get? You act as if there’s these guarantee no doubt names that exist as OC’s that will work.
And I know that you can just throw out some names and claim you think they’ll make a difference. But you don’t really know if they’d make a difference. They could be unsuccessful. It’s completely plausible. Nagy was supposed to be this offensive play calling guru as well.
Shanahan was a big name. He was the youngest position coach in football. And yeah, you can find stories about him and nepotism. They’re bound to exist with his name, but you’re largely exaggerating the extent to which that narrative surrounded him. Some beat writers wrote some articles. That’s about it. And he didnt ever really get fired in the sense you’re making it sound. His father was fired as HC and that means the whole staff was fired. and he more or less quit the Browns because of differences. But you’re pushing this bullshit narrative that he was surrounded by questions of nepotism and he was this failed fired OC and Quinn found him. That’s complete bullshit, He still had a great reputation and was this young up and comer everybody knew would be a head coach some day.
Is Staley even that good though?Quinn and Leslie Frazier signal, to me, a step backwards. It's going from Trestman to Fox. Eberflus seems like trying to find our own Brandon Staley.
Just because Nagy didn't work out doesn't mean you need to revert back to the defensive coach.
Of course you phrase this in the most uncharitable way possible.He was a big name because he shares a last name with his daddy. He actually was not all that successful prior to Atl when you look at actual results not his Daddy's name. Go look up his offensive rankings while OC in WFT and Browns. He had a bottom 10 offense like 4 out 5 years.
Sounds like a match made in heaven for the McCaskeysPlayed a weak ass schedule and anytime it was someone decent they got rolled.....simple
Of course you phrase this in the most uncharitable way possible.
Everybody knew who Kyle Shanahan was because of his famous last name, but that wasn't the primary reason why he became a household name. The 2012 offense he designed around RGIII was revolutionary for its use of running a zone read scheme out of the pistol formation, which allowed the dual threat quarterback to flourish in a way the NFL had never seen before. That was a MASSIVE part of his rise in popularity.
To insinuate he was only hired because of his name is to deny the reality of what that 2012 season did for his reputation around the league, which is what propelled him into getting the job in Cleveland, and then eventually ATL where he was able to solidify himself as one of the bright young offensive minds of the league.
Lol, ok. He started generating head coaching buzz immediately after that season, so I'm going to go with "no" on that one.I already said he had a bottom 10 O for 4 out of 5 years. 2012 was the other year and I think what he is famous for is basically killing RGIII's career by watching him take hit after hit and doing nothing about.
Is one year of success out of 5 worthy of being an OC? Is burning out your franchise QB in like 2 years something to be admired?
Then the only option would be Sean Payton.I don’t find any of these guys much of an upgrade over Nagy. None of them have proven enough to me. Why bring in another average coach. Go spend the money and get it done.
So Nagy was Quinn 2.0 with Fangio being Shanahan 2.0?Quinn is a defensive specialist but his defense sucks ass. He goes away from what is working constantly, his time management is trash, he sucks at challenges and he was carried by Kyle shanahann