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Any house game is a suckers bet over the long haul.... Like Burque said, poker is the best game to play if you must play at a casino, but then you have to beat the rake also.

I prefer to play online holdem, omaha, etc. I'm waiting for the government to allow it back in the states so I can play at the big sites again... Made quite a bit of money back in the day playing at Full tilt and Pokerstars...

"It would be unfair to say scamming, or other forms of cheating are commonplace in online poker markets. But it would also be untrue to say they are rare."

https://www.pokerwebsites.com/scammed/

I'll stick with the 0.7% house advantage, at least I know exactly what I'm up against.
 

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"It would be unfair to say scamming, or other forms of cheating are commonplace in online poker markets. But it would also be untrue to say they are rare."

https://www.pokerwebsites.com/scammed/

I'll stick with the 0.7% house advantage, at least I know exactly what I'm up against.

Yes, there were back in the day, if your talking about the Ultimate Bet issue, there was a programmer that set up a back door to see others cards. It affected the highest stakes games...

But.... I played for about 8 yrs and came out way ahead playing small stakes.... Soon as the door is open again for US players to play at the big sites I will be back playing small stakes making a couple hundo a week.

To each his own...
 
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Ahh, read the article now... Can that happen yes. It was always a non issue, I ran a poker tracking program that tracked players. Anyone that has played as many hands as I have can see any attempted collusion... as an online player, you see a lot of the same people, get to know them very well. Just my opinion...
 

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Any house game is a suckers bet over the long haul.... Like Burque said, poker is the best game to play if you must play at a casino, but then you have to beat the rake also.

I prefer to play online holdem, omaha, etc. I'm waiting for the government to allow it back in the states so I can play at the big sites again... Made quite a bit of money back in the day playing at Full tilt and Pokerstars...

I do not like to play online, always felt like I was getting taken advantage of.

I prefer to look the other players in the face an be able to make them make hard decisions.
 

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Ahh, read the article now... Can that happen yes. It was always a non issue, I ran a poker tracking program that tracked players. Anyone that has played as many hands as I have can see any attempted collusion... as an online player, you see a lot of the same people, get to know them very well. Just my opinion...

I don't trust what is happening on the other end of an internet connection (Manti Te'o style). When I gamble I know exactly what I am up against, 0.7%. You seem to have taken steps to insure you are in a fair game, that sounds like too much work for me, I don't need to insure a fair game, I'll just go hit the tables for some fun.

I won't look it up but weren't there some scams in the world of online fantasy football? I occasionally put a few shekels down on a game, with a bookie, an honest to goodness real life guy with a reputation to protect. I don't know if you heard but last season there was a CCS guy that ran a scam FF league and tried to rip everybody off, he's Special person so he fucked it up, but only after ruining the league.

I don't play slots, or online, I'm old, and old school, I want to see the face of the man trying to take my money.
 

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I do not like to play online, always felt like I was getting taken advantage of.

I prefer to look the other players in the face an be able to make them make hard decisions.

You fucking guy, while I was composing my manifesto (above) you were cutting to the chase.
 

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The way I play craps the house advantage is about 0.7%. My advantage is I can walk away whenever I want. I have seen dealers and pit creatures do anything and everything they can to break up a hot streak, it sucks and the players let them know it.

Craps is all about streaks, even playing low roller at a $5 table I can be up or down $300 in 10 minutes.

Key for me.....go up....get out.
 

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I"ve played live and ya it's fund watching people sweat, but when I found online back in 2002, I played a grinder style, tight aggressive, playing multiple tables. After awhile of playing so many tables at the same time it was very hard to play 1 anymore unless it was a tourney with a 5 figure pay out... Career winnings, a little under 6 figures online...

To each his own...
 

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I"ve played live and ya it's fund watching people sweat, but when I found online back in 2002, I played a grinder style, tight aggressive, playing multiple tables. After awhile of playing so many tables at the same time it was very hard to play 1 anymore unless it was a tourney with a 5 figure pay out... Career winnings, a little under 6 figures online...

To each his own...

It's recreation, dinner and a movie I drop $200 and that is not a problem, I have no chance of winning anything other than a nice evening. I've never gambled to break the house, which why I believe I have never lost for a trip. I've lost for a session, I've lost for a day, even three days in a row, but I've never lost for a trip. The most I've won was a few thousand dollars, 3 days in July of 1987, I came home with $5k more than I left with but I spent most of my winnings on entertainment while I was in Vegas. I never would have dropped that much if I wasn't way up, **** that when I win, everybody wins.
 

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The way I play craps the house advantage is about 0.7%. My advantage is I can walk away whenever I want. I have seen dealers and pit creatures do anything and everything they can to break up a hot streak, it sucks and the players let them know it. Craps is all about streaks, even playing low roller at a $5 table I can be up or down $300 in 10 minutes.
I've always played that same way. Just look for tables that allow you to place high odds. 0.7% is about the best you can get in Vegas unless you count cards. I remember 10x odds in some downtown casinos, but I haven't been there in a long time.
 

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If it makes you feel better Ryan "Lumberjack" Fitzypatrick cost me about $2000 of my money, and maybe $58,000 of house money.

I got greedy and went for the big opening start to football...hahaha, went down hard back to my box on wacker drive...but I almost made it out this time. damn

Fitzy...turned what should have been a good day 2 for 3...with Vikings and Ravens scores, and some of those were 8 team parlays and shitz with the Saints in absolutely everything. I had put that Saints game in EVERYTHING was what it was, attached that one game to all kinds of shit leading up to week 1....for weeks every parlay I had included saints...some won, some didn't, but I was cocky I could stand on that game, and their defense showed up just as cocky.

I won so much on world cup, baseball, etc...I was enfuego for 5 weeks.

The reality is I started in my box, i'm back to my box. I know what I can do and now that this shitz is legal...must learn control. No reason I am not successful but lack of impulse control.
 

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Just for the hell of it.... And I haven't played online for a long time, but I found a site that will let US play... Going to start with nothing and just play freerolls, see if I can build a bankroll from nothing. Americas Cardroom if any one is interested... Played there yrs ago...
 

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The way I play craps the house advantage is about 0.7%. My advantage is I can walk away whenever I want. I have seen dealers and pit creatures do anything and everything they can to break up a hot streak, it sucks and the players let them know it.

Craps is all about streaks, even playing low roller at a $5 table I can be up or down $300 in 10 minutes.
Explain how ya play..
 

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Explain how ya play..

When dealers change shifts they tell their replacements how a guy plays, they call my method "right way", that doesn't mean the correct way, it's just what they call it.

Let's say it's a $5 table, coming out I put $5 on the pass line. Once the number is established I back my pass line bet up with double free odds or $10 and get $5 coming. The next number is established I get the double free odds $10 on that and another $5 coming. When I have my third number backed up with $10 free odds I stop there with 3 numbers working. With 3 number working each with a $5 straight odds and $10 true odds that's $45 on the layout and averages out to 0.7% house advantage.

Real world example, $5 pass line, come out roll is 4, back up the pass line with $10 and put $5 coming, next roll is 6 back that up with $10, next roll is 9 backed up with $10 odds.

My three numbers are 4, 6, 9.

4 and 10 pay true odds of 2-1
5 and 9 pay true odds of 3-2
6 and 8 pay true odds of 6-5

So if the 4 hits I get paid $5 even odds on my pass line and $20 on the true odds bet. They hand me my $15 bet and $25 winnings or $40.
If the 6 hits I get paid $5 even odds and $12 on the true odds, they hand me my $15 bet and $17 winnings or $32.
If the 9 hits I get paid $5 even odds and $15 on the true odds, they hand me my $15 bet and $20 winnings or $35.

If I made that sound complicated, it really isn't, It's easier to play Craps correctly than to play Black Jack correctly.

And you can get slightly better odds betting the Don't Pass line but I refuse to go to the dark side for ~0.02%. The guys that do play don't pass are usually creepy looking psychos, how I picture Shoopster.
 

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When dealers change shifts they tell their replacements how a guy plays, they call my method "right way", that doesn't mean the correct way, it's just what they call it. Let's say it's a $5 table, coming out I put $5 on the pass line. Once the number is established I back my pass line bet up with double free odds or $10 and get $5 coming. The next number is established I get the double free odds $10 on that and another $5 coming. When I have my third number backed up with $10 free odds I stop there with 3 numbers working. With 3 number working each with a $5 straight odds and $10 true odds that's $45 on the layout and averages out to 0.7% house advantage. Real world example, $5 pass line, come out roll is 4, back up the pass line with $10 and put $5 coming, next roll is 6 back that up with $10, next roll is 9 backed up with $10 odds. My three numbers are 4, 6, 9. 4 and 10 pay true odds of 2-1 5 and 9 pay true odds of 3-2 6 and 8 pay true odds of 6-5 So if the 4 hits I get paid $5 even odds on my pass line and $20 on the true odds bet. They hand me my $15 bet and $25 winnings or $40. If the 6 hits I get paid $5 even odds and $12 on the true odds, they hand me my $15 bet and $17 winnings or $32. If the 9 hits I get paid $5 even odds and $15 on the true odds, they hand me my $15 bet and $20 winnings or $35. If I made that sound complicated, it really isn't, It's easier to play Craps correctly than to play Black Jack correctly. And you can get slightly better odds betting the Don't Pass line but I refuse to go to the dark side for ~0.02%. The guys that do play don't pass are usually creepy looking psychos, how I picture Shoopster.
Hehe. I do usually play don't pass (not creepy looking though). When I win, most others there lose so I never celebrate or even make a peep when I win. If I lose, everyone else is happy they won so at least there's still that.
 

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