Dane Brugler has us taking Pickens

[wazzupi]

David bell is too slow and doesn’t ever have separation he won’t get away with half the shit he did in college.

 

[wazzupi]

Alec pierce and Pickens show more ability and talent. Pickens is a great blocker btw. Pierce shows insane moves at the line to get open.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I would rather have Bell over Pickens. His consistency has been insane in college. Over the last two seasons he has less that 6 receptions in a game once. He has has less that 64 yards receiving in a game once.

This receiving corp is going to need a rookie who can come in and dependable early. IMO his floor is high and that's what the Bears need.

To be fair, I haven’t seen Bell play a lot. I watch every UGA game. IMO, Bell got his numbers because it’s Purdue-he had to be the guy. Not a knock on him-he was and did great. But UGA is run first and always loaded with people who will be playing on Sundays, and Pickens still looked the part. He just didn’t get the number of touches due to that.

IMO, Pickens would have easily surpassed Bell’s numbers if it was him at Purdue. And if both were there, Pickens is the #1, and it’s not close to me.

Im more concerned about Picken’s knee injury from last spring.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong. Bell is a fantastic WR.

 

[Midwaymonster75]

Dane Brugler, draft guru at the Athletic, just put out his new mock. He has us taking George Pickens WR Georgia.

He had Darian Kinnard OL Kentucky going 3 picks later to Washington. He had Muma going at 51. He had Cine going even later.

If you had to choose between Pickens, Kinnard, Muma, and Cine, who would it be and why?

I’ve been leaning towards Kinnard who pancaked some ‘banana DLs who are going to go in the first. I also really like Muma and Cine; plus, they fill a deep need.

If that happens then this new GM/HC will be off to a bad start. A WR with a ton of talent but a history of injuries wholl likely be there in rd3 is simply a bad pick. I dont mind going WR but not for this guy.

 

[dennehy]

To be fair, I haven’t seen Bell play a lot. I watch every UGA game. IMO, Bell got his numbers because it’s Purdue-he had to be the guy. Not a knock on him-he was and did great. But UGA is run first and always loaded with people who will be playing on Sundays, and Pickens still looked the part. He just didn’t get the number of touches due to that.

IMO, Pickens would have easily surpassed Bell’s numbers if it was him at Purdue. And if both were there, Pickens is the #1, and it’s not close to me.

Im more concerned about Picken’s knee injury from last spring.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong. Bell is a fantastic WR.

Bell got pretty much just as good numbers with Rondale Moore playing next to him for two years. He got over 1k as a frosh and with a full season last year was on pace for over 1300.

Which high round draft pick WR have been on UGA over the last two years?

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Check this out. Four possible selections in round 2 for the Bears…

4 TDN100 Players Bears Should Target In 2022 NFL Draft | The Draft Network

380 RT?

I would be salivating if he could play RT at an NFL level. Jenkins and Borom could fight it out for LT and the loser becomes the RG.

Would still need the center ... unless ... Borom starts learning the center position in the offseason. Maybe bring back Daniels if the price isn't too bad?

Whitehair would suddenly be the big softie in this situation.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Bell got pretty much just as good numbers with Rondale Moore playing next to him for two years. He got over 1k as a frosh and with a full season last year was on pace for over 1300.

Which high round draft pick WR have been on UGA over the last two years?

UGA doesn’t prioritize the WR position as much as other teams in their offense. Run first, TE as the safety valve.

Never been too high on Rondale Moore. Plus it’s Purdue and the Big 10.

Bell is really good. All I’m saying is that Pickens is the better WR by far. Pickens would’ve dominated on that Purdue team, and would be looking at going in the 1st.

Kinnard is a helluva prospect tho, and that OL needs some work.

 

[dennehy]

UGA doesn’t prioritize the WR position as much as other teams in their offense. Run first, TE as the safety valve.

Never been too high on Rondale Moore. Plus it’s Purdue and the Big 10.

Bell is really good. All I’m saying is that Pickens is the better WR by far. Pickens would’ve dominated on that Purdue team, and would be looking at going in the 1st.

Kinnard is a helluva prospect tho, and that OL needs some work.

I watch UGA too.

Well Rondale Moore was drafted higher than any UGA receiver in the last decade, right? Or am I missing someone? I think someone thought pretty highly of him.

All I'm saying is, no, he's not, at least not by far.

Pickens is physically dominant, but seems like a long way to go to be a well rounded NFL caliber receiver. He seems to haver composure and effort issues. Wins with athleticism. Has a high ceiling with a lower floor than Bell imo.

 

[Visionman]

His next mock he will not has us taking Pickens.

I’m sure most Mocks at this point in the process are pretty set in stone…

 

[Midway Fields]

I watch UGA too.

Well Rondale Moore was drafted higher than any UGA receiver in the last decade, right? Or am I missing someone? I think someone thought pretty highly of him.

All I'm saying is, no, he's not.

Pickens is physically dominant, but seems like a long way to go to be an NFL caliber receiver.

AJ Green was the last blue chip WR from Georgia.

 

[dennehy]

AJ Green was the last blue chip WR from Georgia.

That's what I thought, and since then I think Chris Conley is their only WR drafted above the 4th round. Maybe Mecole Hardeman.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I watch UGA too.

Well Rondale Moore was drafted higher than any UGA receiver in the last decade, right? Or am I missing someone? I think someone thought pretty highly of him.

All I'm saying is, no, he's not.

Pickens is physically dominant, but seems like a long way to go to be a well rounded NFL caliber receiver.

Agree to disagree. Pickens played beside Deandre Swift, Janes Cook, Zamir White, and Brock Bowers and still got 8 and 6 TDs in 2019 and 2020. Had the injury this season. All of whom are exponentially better football players than Moore. Pickens would’ve doubled those numbers at Perdue.

Time will tell who will have the more productive pro career.

 

[dennehy]

Agree to disagree. Pickens played beside Deandre Swift, Janes Cook, Zamir White, and Brock Bowers and still got 8 and 6 TDs in 2019 and 2020. Had the injury this season. All of whom are exponentially better football players than Moore. Pickens would’ve doubled those numbers at Perdue.

Time will tell who will have the more productive pro career.

He would have gotten 6000 receiving yards at Purdue?

Both of those exponentially better running backs are going to be drafted much later, just fyi.

 

[bearsfan1977]

He would have gotten 6000 receiving yards at Purdue?

Both of those exponentially better running backs are going to be drafted much later, just fyi.

I was talking about the TDs.

Maybe, but all of those RBs are much better than Moore, who is quickly finding out it’s harder to put up those numbers on Sundays than it was in the dynamic Big 10. And he sure as shit wouldn’t have put up those numbers in the SEC. And Bell sure as hell wouldn’t have if he played at UGA. He wouldn’t have even been #1 with Pickens on the team.

Comparing UGA and Purdue is like comparing the Yankees to some AAA club.

Pickens played with and against far superior competition. Bell did not. That is just a fact. Now, again, I haven’t watched a lot of Bell, but I watched enough to know he isn’t so good that he would’ve gotten more touches than Pickens at UGA.

 

[dennehy]

I was talking about the TDs.

Maybe, but all of those RBs are much better than Moore, who is quickly finding out it’s harder to put up those numbers on Sundays than it was in the dynamic Big 10. And he sure as shit wouldn’t have put up those numbers in the SEC. And Bell sure as hell wouldn’t have if he played at UGA. He wouldn’t have even been #1 with Pickens on the team.

Comparing UGA and Purdue is like comparing the Yankees to some AAA club.

Pickens played with and against far superior competition. Bell did not. That is just a fact. Now, again, I haven’t watched a lot of Bell, but I watched enough to know he isn’t so good that he would’ve gotten more touches than Pickens at UGA.

It could also be that you are just a huge UGA fan and you think every player from UGA is going to be better than they probably are going to be?

Noone thinks Zamir White is going to be drafted in the first three rounds, probably first four. He's a run of the mill 2 down back in the NFL. Cook has more upside but, and here's the flipside, he likely benefited from UGA being more talented than other teams. That argument is a two way street. Pickens did not have many WRs to compete with for touches on UGA.

As I mentioned Pickens is very talented and has a high ceiling. Not someone I think the Bears have the luxury to pick with one of their two top 100 picks, because he lacks polish and composure and has imo a low floor. I bet he and Bell probably get drafted within about 20 picks of one another though.

 

[bearsfan1977]

It could also be that you are just a huge UGA fan and you think every player from UGA is going to be better than they probably are going to be?

Noone thinks Zamir White is going to be drafted in the first three rounds, probably first four. He's a run of the mill 2 down back in the NFL. Cook has more upside but, and here's the flipside, he likely benefited from UGA being more talented than other teams. That argument is a two way street. Pickens did not have many WRs to compete with for touches on UGA.

As I mentioned Pickens is very talented and has a high ceiling. Not someone I think the Bears have the luxury to pick with one of their two top 100 picks, because he lacks polish and composure and has imo a low floor. I bet he and Bell probably get drafted within about 20 picks of one another though.

Those are all good points. But I try my best to keep my UGA bias out of it!

I think White will be an incredibly good back. Just a feeling. The position is undervalued and they always go later. I think Moore benefited from being in the Big 10 and playing weak competition. I think he and Mecole Hardman are similar players.

I believe the same is true of Bell. I could very well be wrong though. I have no problem trying to be honest with myself when it comes to projecting UGA players. I just have an instinct that Pickens will be a beast.

The 2 concerns I have with him are: the injury, and maturity.

I still want the Bears to prioritize OL before everything else, rely on a running game and play action to help Fields along, and then attack the WR position next year when the cap eases up.

 

[dennehy]

Those are all good points. But I try my best to keep my UGA bias out of it!

I think White will be an incredibly good back. Just a feeling. The position is undervalued and they always go later. I think Moore benefited from being in the Big 10 and playing weak competition. I think he and Mecole Hardman are similar players.

I believe the same is true of Bell. I could very well be wrong though. I have no problem trying to be honest with myself when it comes to projecting UGA players. I just have an instinct that Pickens will be a beast.

The 2 concerns I have with him are: the injury, and maturity.

I still want the Bears to prioritize OL before everything else, rely on a running game and play action to help Fields along, and then attack the WR position next year when the cap eases up.

There's not too much difference between the Big Ten and SEC in terms of NFL rostering, just fyi. About 2.5-3 per team on average. It's an obvious difference but statistically there isn't a huge advantage in terms of playing at the next level.

Isn't Mecole more of a deep threat? Moore is a screen, LB matchup type player, more like Tarik Cohen.

 

[hyatt151]

That's what I thought, and since then I think Chris Conley is their only WR drafted above the 4th round. Maybe Mecole Hardeman.

Hardman 2nd round #56

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I want metchie wherever his stock ends up putting him

 

[TL1961]

David bell is too slow and doesn’t ever have separation he won’t get away with half the shit he did in college.

In this same mock, Bugler has Bell dropping to 63.