Dave Duerson #85 found dead

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It's not that I don't believe that it can affect a person negatively in that way, its that I don't like it being used to excuse a person at all. Unless you are completely fuck all out of your mind, you always have a choice in how you let something affect your behavior, especially towards the people who love you.
 

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It's not that I don't believe that it can affect a person negatively in that way, its that I don't like it being used to excuse a person at all. Unless you are completely fuck all out of your mind, you always have a choice in how you let something affect your behavior, especially towards the people who love you.

Yeah, well the argument could be made that anyone that shoots themselves in the chest right after sending a "suicide text" to his ex-wife instructing that his brain be donated to the hospital studying the effects of concussions on athletes, is fucked all out his mind.



But that's just speculation.
 

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I would actually argue the opposite because of the instructions he left. He knew what he was doing, as dark and morbid as it sounds, he understood that the relatively quick and painless way of killing himself by blowing his brains out wouldn't do the cause any good. So he chose to shoot himself through his heart and bleed out.
 

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I would actually argue the opposite because of the instructions he left. He knew what he was doing, as dark and morbid as it sounds, he understood that the relatively quick and painless way of killing himself by blowing his brains out wouldn't do the cause any good. So he chose to shoot himself through his heart and bleed out.



Read the GQ article. It's long, but worth it.
 

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I would actually argue the opposite because of the instructions he left. He knew what he was doing, as dark and morbid as it sounds, he understood that the relatively quick and painless way of killing himself by blowing his brains out wouldn't do the cause any good. So he chose to shoot himself through his heart and bleed out.



WTH does his being cognisant of what he was doing have to do with the fact that he was suffering from the throes of severe clincical depression? Do you have even a rudimentary understanding of depression, it's manifestations, and effects? That it is a classified psychological disorder? Depressives are aware that they're depressed---the salient psychological problem is that their minds can not allow them to see a proverbial "light at the end of the tunnel" and that's what they struggle to try to get to either alone, with therapy, with pharmaceuticals, etc. Some have success, some have a measure of success, some get relief through "remissions" between their bouts of depression and some like Dave Duerson never manage---with or without help/aids---to drag themselves out of depression's hold. What's so difficult to understand here?
 

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WTH does his being cognisant of what he was doing have to do with the fact that he was suffering from the throes of severe clincical depression? Do you have even a rudimentary understanding of depression, it's manifestations, and effects? That it is a classified psychological disorder? Depressives are aware that they're depressed---the salient psychological problem is that their minds can not allow them to see a proverbial "light a the end of the tunnel" and that's what they struggle to try to get to either alone, with therapy, with pharmaceuticals, etc. Some have success, some have a measure of success, some get relief through "remissions" between their bouts of depression and some like Dave Duerson never manage---with or without help/aids---to drag themselves out of depression's hold. What's so difficult to understand here?



As a clinically depressed person (but not Duerson bad), I'm comporting myself right now.



Thank you, Bookie.
 

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