Desperado34
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10 years out of the league and coaching in the CFL over the NFL coach of the year.
Ugh.
What could've been.
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Lol right?
10 years out of the league and coaching in the CFL over the NFL coach of the year.
Ugh.
What could've been.
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This incident happened before the last game of the season. Trestman lost the locker room long before that.
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The original article that Deadspin is paraphrasing:
2. Before the Cowboys enabled Greg Hardy, there was Jeremiah Ratliff
Watch the reporter's face in the background while Jerry Jones calls Greg Hardy a "real leader" pic.twitter.com/oHgbEDgf3i
— John Gonzalez (@gonzoCSN) October 26, 2015
The way Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is enabling Greg Hardy's childish behavior is, well, pretty disgraceful. Deadspin had it right with its NSFW headline.
But there is another example of a team enabling the behavior of a troubled player and ignoring his issues so it can take advantage of his talent. It is one of the most startling, unbelievable, worrisome examples of player enabling you will ever hear.
By now, you've heard the story of former Bears player Jeremiah Ratliff. He had a heated exchange with Bears officials after being cut and had to be escorted out of the team complex by security.
Jeremiah Ratliff was escorted out of Halas Hall on Wed. by #Bears team security. Ratliff had an animated exchange with GM Ryan Pace outside.
— Adam Jahns (@adamjahns) October 22, 2015
Lake Forest police were later stationed at Halas Hall on Wed. after #Bears security escorted Jeremiah Ratliff off Halas Hall premises.
— Adam Jahns (@adamjahns) October 22, 2015
What you may not know was that something similar happened last year with Ratliff and the Bears. It was a scary and bizarre moment.
In the last week of the season, on a Friday, according to a player who witnessed the entire incident, Ratliff showed up to practice and was behaving belligerently toward players and coaches. The coaching regime, then led by Marc Trestman, would not allow him to practice.
Ratliff went ballistic, this player said, and was asked to leave practice. He departed but later returned. Practice was stopped and most players went off to the side while a small group of players and coaches tried to calm Ratliff down and get him to leave.
It didn't work initially. Ratliff destroyed the game clock on the practice field, smashing it and kicking it. Later, he shoved an assistant coach to the ground. While all of this went on, Trestman never intervened. He just stood off to the side and watched.
And this is the most incredible part. The uber-enabling part. Not only was Ratliff never punished by Trestman...he was named one of the captains the next day. The entire locker room was incredulous.
Trestman justified making Ratliff a captain by saying he brought intensity, but no player bought that. That move, the player said, led to Trestman officially losing the locker room. Trestman was fired soon after.
You can't blame the new coaching staff if, fully aware of what happened with Ratliff last year, they just wanted to get him as far away from the team as possible.
This is the lesson for the Cowboys. You cannot mess around with the players the way Trestman tried to. The players know why Jones is defending Hardy, and it has nothing to do with passion. It's because he's talented, and the players know all of this. They're not dumb.
2. Before the Cowboys enabled Greg Hardy, there was Jeremiah Ratliff
Watch the reporter's face in the background while Jerry Jones calls Greg Hardy a "real leader" pic.twitter.com/oHgbEDgf3i
— John Gonzalez (@gonzoCSN) October 26, 2015
The way Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is enabling Greg Hardy's childish behavior is, well, pretty disgraceful. Deadspin had it right with its NSFW headline.
But there is another example of a team enabling the behavior of a troubled player and ignoring his issues so it can take advantage of his talent. It is one of the most startling, unbelievable, worrisome examples of player enabling you will ever hear.
By now, you've heard the story of former Bears player Jeremiah Ratliff. He had a heated exchange with Bears officials after being cut and had to be escorted out of the team complex by security.
Jeremiah Ratliff was escorted out of Halas Hall on Wed. by #Bears team security. Ratliff had an animated exchange with GM Ryan Pace outside.
— Adam Jahns (@adamjahns) October 22, 2015
Lake Forest police were later stationed at Halas Hall on Wed. after #Bears security escorted Jeremiah Ratliff off Halas Hall premises.
— Adam Jahns (@adamjahns) October 22, 2015
What you may not know was that something similar happened last year with Ratliff and the Bears. It was a scary and bizarre moment.
In the last week of the season, on a Friday, according to a player who witnessed the entire incident, Ratliff showed up to practice and was behaving belligerently toward players and coaches. The coaching regime, then led by Marc Trestman, would not allow him to practice.
Ratliff went ballistic, this player said, and was asked to leave practice. He departed but later returned. Practice was stopped and most players went off to the side while a small group of players and coaches tried to calm Ratliff down and get him to leave.
It didn't work initially. Ratliff destroyed the game clock on the practice field, smashing it and kicking it. Later, he shoved an assistant coach to the ground. While all of this went on, Trestman never intervened. He just stood off to the side and watched.
And this is the most incredible part. The uber-enabling part. Not only was Ratliff never punished by Trestman...he was named one of the captains the next day. The entire locker room was incredulous.
Trestman justified making Ratliff a captain by saying he brought intensity, but no player bought that. That move, the player said, led to Trestman officially losing the locker room. Trestman was fired soon after.
You can't blame the new coaching staff if, fully aware of what happened with Ratliff last year, they just wanted to get him as far away from the team as possible.
This is the lesson for the Cowboys. You cannot mess around with the players the way Trestman tried to. The players know why Jones is defending Hardy, and it has nothing to do with passion. It's because he's talented, and the players know all of this. They're not dumb.
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Trestmans no longer part of the bears so what he was or wasnt as a head coach is in the past and doesnt matter, but I find the hypocrisy around here amusing. The team photo is mocked, meanwhile when McPhee has the team lock arms, its leadership.
and fwiw, no matter how much some of you want to believe trest doesnt know offense, the ravens O is 11th in points and 9th in total O despite having no weapons besides an aging Smith and Flacco paying like shit throwing picks and missing throws left and right.
everyone just flips flops their opinion based on whether or not a move worked out... when it look like its in the bears favor its great, everyone loves it, when it turns out poorly, then everyone suddenly knew that it would. lol
and fwiw, no matter how much some of you want to believe trest doesnt know offense, the ravens O is 11th in points and 9th in total O despite having no weapons besides an aging Smith and Flacco paying like shit throwing picks and missing throws left and right.
everyone just flips flops their opinion based on whether or not a move worked out... when it look like its in the bears favor its great, everyone loves it, when it turns out poorly, then everyone suddenly knew that it would. lol
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Yet they're last in yards per pass and actually 15th in points per game and 12th in total O per game. Bye weeks skew overall stats until the end of the season. It points to getting more possessions and the O not helping the D enough. Trestman finally let them run last week and it helped a lot. Hopefully he learned something or Harbaugh stays on him.
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He lost it with this:
hahahaha. there was another thread where I wanted to cite this as epic failure on Trestman's part.
did McPhee have the team join hands in the shower? and that's great that the Ravens offense is doing well. I think you entirely missed the point about him not being HEAD COACHING material though.
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That's what Tom Waddle said on the radio yesterday. He said the Briggs restaurant deal opened the flood gates basically & believed the players felt they could do anything they wanted. The fact that they felt his play calling and coaching staff sucked probably made things ten times worse. Once they figured out that they could walk all over him.
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it was basically a country club where they could get paid and not care. surprisingly the only significant casualty of all of that I think was the Brandon Marshall trade. and of course, Trestman's crew getting axed after 2 years.
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I just wish Desbro wasn't so big of a supporter of the Trestman hire.
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I don't know why you have to beat that dead horse. was it wrong after the 2013 season to be optimistic it was a good move and an upgrade over Lovie Smith? 2013 was one thing, 2014 was another entirely. you act like Despbro was the only proponent for the hire. he's the only one that has enough nuts to admit that he supported it once, everyone else is afraid they might lose the popularity contest in the circle of people that think CCS is somehow life.
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i think you missed the very first sentence of my post.
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A typical bear hire!
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Is that why the Ravens have their worst record through 7 games in a long time?
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The day the Ravens hired Trestman, I wrote a Ravens beat reporter and said it was a catastrophically bad move.