Derrick Rose must be the MVP because he's the only Bulls all-star

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The Boston Celtics have four all-stars. They're on pace for 63 wins.The Miami Heat have three all-stars. They're on pace for 58 wins.The Atlanta Hawks have two all-stars. They're on pace for 52 wins.The Bulls? They have only one all-star,...

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Good article.

The Bulls may have only one all-star but Boozer, Deng and Noah are all borderline all stars, so it's not like Rose is doing it all by himself. But I do think he does more for the Bulls to win than anyone else in the NBA does for their teams,

Say it with me ...

MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP! ...
 

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If he doesn't win MVP i wont know what to believe anymore.Since hes our ONLY fucking star & everyone else going to LA has at least 1 teammate if not 2 joining them :smh:
 

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What about Dwight Howard? He's the only All-Star on the Magic and he's having an MVP-like season.
 

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What about Dwight Howard? He's the only All-Star on the Magic and he's having an MVP-like season.

But Orlando is 31-18 while the Bulls are 34-14 so the argument is that Rose is More valuable to his team than Howard is to his. Hence, Rose is the Most Valuable Player
 

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What about Dwight Howard? He's the only All-Star on the Magic and he's having an MVP-like season.

who else do you want from the magic? Gil? hedo? they're pretty average. J-rich just got over from a trade. i think that's got to affect the coahes perspective a little. Jameer isn't have a blow you away year. Plus this team looks pretty miserable.
 

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His team underwent a major roster change mid-way through the first part of the season.
 

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who else do you want from the magic? Gil? hedo? they're pretty average. J-rich just got over from a trade. i think that's got to affect the coahes perspective a little. Jameer isn't have a blow you away year. Plus this team looks pretty miserable.

I think you're answering a question that wasn't asked. Fade was asking if Howard should be considered for League MVP this year. I don't see how your post relates.

... Or maybe I'm missing something.
 

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I think you're answering a question that wasn't asked. Fade was asking if Howard should be considered for League MVP this year. I don't see how your post relates.

... Or maybe I'm missing something.

no you're probably right. i'm watching the game, working out, and on the forum. i'm half assing it.
 

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no you're probably right. i'm watching the game, working out, and on the forum. i'm half assing it.

my post was responding directly to the main point of the article: that DRose=MVP because he's the only all-star on a very good team (I refrain from saying Elite). Dwight Howard is the only All-Star on a pretty good team, they're only 3 games back from the Bulls. I think it's a fairly homer article to neglect Dwight.
 

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my post was responding directly to the main point of the article: that DRose=MVP because he's the only all-star on a very good team (I refrain from saying Elite). Dwight Howard is the only All-Star on a pretty good team, they're only 3 games back from the Bulls. I think it's a fairly homer article to neglect Dwight.

My only response to that would be that Orlando was 59-23 last year (.720 winning percentage), while the Bulls were 41-41 (.500). The Magic are actually doing worse this year with a .620 winning % (projected record 51-31). It's hard to argue that Howard should be the League MVP when his team hasn't improved over last year. With Noah or Boozer out for all but 6 games this season, the Bulls are much improved over last year. I think that counts for a lot.
 

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My only response to that would be that Orlando was 59-23 last year (.720 winning percentage), while the Bulls were 41-41 (.500). The Magic are actually doing worse this year with a .620 winning % (projected record 51-31). It's hard to argue that Howard should be the League MVP when his team hasn't improved over last year. With Noah or Boozer out for all but 6 games this season, the Bulls are much improved over last year. I think that counts for a lot.

I totally agree, DRose is definitely my MVP. I'm just responding to the article.
 

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I totally agree, DRose is definitely my MVP. I'm just responding to the article.

I think you made a fair assessment. I said the same thing about Dirk Nowitzki a month ago and people questioned me on it. It really shouldn't be hard to take the homer hard hat off and look at things from a league wide perspective. The thinking in that article is flawed as was the Sam Smith article written earlier in the day with the same premise, unless you apply the same formula league wide.

Dwight has had a fantastic season, he is definitely in the MVP discussion...
 
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Aw, well if it isn't Houheffna. I've heard about you. A lot about you! lol

I agree with what you say in bringing Dirk to the proverbial MVP table. I also happen to agree that Dwight Howard is deserving as well.

In my mind, there are only 4 real possibilities and as much as I like D-Ro, I don't think this is his year.

My short list at the moment are Dirk (1), LeBron (2), Dwight (3) and Kevin Durant (4). Kevin Love WOULD be in the running but unfortunately he's playing on a bad team.

If Rose steps it up the next two months obviously he will be seated at my table with the heavy forks and the finest of cutlery.

But not yet.

I think you made a fair assessment. I said the same thing about Dirk Nowitzki a month ago and people questioned me on it. It really shouldn't be hard to take the homer hard hat off and look at things from a league wide perspective. The thinking in that article is flawed as was the Sam Smith article written earlier in the day with the same premise, unless you apply the same formula league wide.

Dwight has had a fantastic season, he is definitely in the MVP discussion...
 

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Ehh, the problem with that is the Bulls certainly could have had 3 All-Stars if everyone was healthy. Plus Deng is just barely on the outside looking in. To classify players as All-Star and non All-Star isn't quite fair. Is there really much of a difference between the 12th player to make the All-Star team and the 1st player left off? The Bulls possibly had 3 of the first 5 or 6 players left out. The gap isn't really all that large.
 
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If he wins the MVP it will be unprecedented at 22 years old.

I can't see him getting it this year.

Too young.

Ehh, the problem with that is the Bulls certainly could have had 3 All-Stars if everyone was healthy. Plus Deng is just barely on the outside looking in. To classify players as All-Star and non All-Star isn't quite fair. Is there really much of a difference between the 12th player to make the All-Star team and the 1st player left off? The Bulls possibly had 3 of the first 5 or 6 players left out. The gap isn't really all that large.
 

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His age has nothing to do with it. If he's played at that level, he deserves the award.

Dirk (1), LeBron (2), Dwight (3) and Kevin Durant (4)

Dirk, okay.

lebron? No. He's one two already and aside from a few good games, he's been pretty average. Plus, playing with Wade cancels him out.

Dwight? His team is worse than last year and he isn't getting them more wins.

Durant? Just no. Westbrook has out played him on numerous occasions this year and has more of an impact on the team than Durant's jump shooting free throw parade.

Rose? Has not had a fully healthy team, battled nagging injuries, and still has his team top 4 overall in the league. The Bulls are on pace for at least 55-57 wins, a 14-16 game improvement over last season and as mentioned before, not having his full compliment of players and dealing with Kieth Bogans in his back court.

Rose is deserving of the MVP award.
 

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I don't think you can simply cancel Lebron out just because he plays with Wade and Bosh. Is Wade, Bosh, and a bunch of below average bench players better than Deng, Boozer, Noah, and an above average bench? Maybe, but it certainly isn't some huge difference that should make Lebron ineligible while making Rose the favorite. You can factor it in, and I still think Rose should be the MVP, but I don't think you can simply say Lebron isn't a candidate because of Wade.
 

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Canceling out LeBron simply does not work. I agree that Rose is the MVP but you better believe that LeBron has been just about as valuable for the Heat in terms of wins as Rose has been for the Bulls.
 

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