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I dont see Walter Nolen as the solution at all. He doesnt remind me of Jalen Carter and I dont see the connection or reference point.

Drafting another 3T at #10 is just a replacement for Dexter imo.
 

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I dont see Walter Nolen as the solution at all. He doesnt remind me of Jalen Carter and I dont see the connection or reference point.

Drafting another 3T at #10 is just a replacement for Dexter imo.
A player with Nolen’s potential is always the solution. His first step explosiveness and lateral agility is insane. I think he has a higher ceiling than Mason Graham. An interior DL game-wrecker is absolutely worth it at 10, and I think he can be that guy.

DLs rotate quite a bit. Nolen and Dexter as the penetrating pass rushers, and Billings and a guy like, say, Alfred Collins as the run stuffers. That’s a quality interior DL.
 

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A player with Nolen’s potential is always the solution. His first step explosiveness and lateral agility is insane. I think he has a higher ceiling than Mason Graham. An interior DL game-wrecker is absolutely worth it at 10, and I think he can be that guy.

DLs rotate quite a bit. Nolen and Dexter as the penetrating pass rushers, and Billings and a guy like, say, Alfred Collins as the run stuffers. That’s a quality interior DL.
I agree and Nolen and Dexter can play together on 3rd downs and using other packages as well like using one on the edge at certain times.
 

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I dont see Walter Nolen as the solution at all. He doesnt remind me of Jalen Carter and I dont see the connection or reference point.

Drafting another 3T at #10 is just a replacement for Dexter imo.
It's admitting Dexter is quality depth and not a pro bowl type difference maker. It's probably what needs to happen.

I am disappointed Pickens was a complete dud. We put a huge percentage of draft capital (being under resourced) into the position and didn't solve it, compounding the mistake.
 

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What does this have to do with a$$ & titties??
 

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I think he's got enough on film and Senior Bowl to be top 15 for sure. Shuttle is one of few combine events that has decent predictive qualities for EDGE players, though, I agree about that.
I think some will also have to do with how they feel about Booker and his off season program. He just turned 22 with potential.
 

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I think some will also have to do with how they feel about Booker and his off season program. He just turned 22 with potential.
Booker was pretty meh last year, I don't think you can count on him to play 40-50% of snaps.

I think they have to add an EDGE no matter what they think of him too. They really only have Sweat, Walker, and Booker. The others are really longshots.
 

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Booker was pretty meh last year, I don't think you can count on him to play 40-50% of snaps.

I think they have to add an EDGE no matter what they think of him too. They really only have Sweat, Walker, and Booker. The others are really longshots.
I don't know what to expect from Booker. He was always going to be a projection and why he was there in 5. I'm not saying Booker is all that here either but how he's projected could effect the draft.
 

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A player with Nolen’s potential is always the solution. His first step explosiveness and lateral agility is insane. I think he has a higher ceiling than Mason Graham. An interior DL game-wrecker is absolutely worth it at 10, and I think he can be that guy.

DLs rotate quite a bit. Nolen and Dexter as the penetrating pass rushers, and Billings and a guy like, say, Alfred Collins as the run stuffers. That’s a quality interior DL.
Alfred Collins complements Dexter, whereas Nolen replaces him. I dont see how drafting Nolen and Collins is an option because its spending too much draft capital on that position in the early rounds.

Graham and Nolen are both bad options at #10 imo. The Bears do need run defense help but the #10 should be pass protection or edge rusher. Grab a DT later in the draft or after a trade down for more picks.
 

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Alfred Collins complements Dexter, whereas Nolen replaces him. I dont see how drafting Nolen and Collins is an option because its spending too much draft capital on that position in the early rounds.

Graham and Nolen are both bad options at #10 imo. The Bears do need run defense help but the #10 should be pass protection or edge rusher. Grab a DT later in the draft or after a trade down for more picks.
It’s not a question of replacing anyone. DL rotate in frequently. Dexter is a good player. Nolen has the ability to be special. Like top 5 at his position special and much better than Dexter. Look at the Eagles. Milton Williams doesn’t replace Jalen Carter. And so on. They have deep DL of high quality players.

I also wouldn’t mind DE at 10. Someone to complement Sweat on the other side.
 

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I think some will also have to do with how they feel about Booker and his off season program. He just turned 22 with potential.
I love that Booker has the motor and gives 100% effort but he needs to work on his strength and using his hands and bend to become a better pass rusher. Now that we got Dennis Allen and how he likes his edge rushers to have size like Montez Sweat, it's going to be hard for Booker to get on the field i would think.
 

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Alfred Collins complements Dexter, whereas Nolen replaces him. I dont see how drafting Nolen and Collins is an option because its spending too much draft capital on that position in the early rounds.

Graham and Nolen are both bad options at #10 imo. The Bears do need run defense help but the #10 should be pass protection or edge rusher. Grab a DT later in the draft or after a trade down for more picks.
The Eagles drafted Williams (3rd round), Davis 13th pick, and Carter 10th pick in 3 successive drafts.

The only 2 guys we have that are decent on the interior are Dexter and Billings who is turning 30 and coming off injury.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with drafting Nolen as ideally you want two guys capable of playing 3T on passing downs.
 

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Booker was pretty meh last year, I don't think you can count on him to play 40-50% of snaps.

I think they have to add an EDGE no matter what they think of him too. They really only have Sweat, Walker, and Booker. The others are really longshots.
I'm kind of enjoying the reflection on the board that's causing Bears fans to realize how bad Ryan Poles is.
 

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The Eagles drafted Williams (3rd round), Davis 13th pick, and Carter 10th pick in 3 successive drafts.

The only 2 guys we have that are decent on the interior are Dexter and Billings who is turning 30 and coming off injury.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with drafting Nolen as ideally you want two guys capable of playing 3T on passing downs.
Precisely. Neither Dexter nor Billings should preclude the Bears from taking guys like Nolen. Or guys like Kenneth Grant, for that matter.

While a lot of attention has been focused on the OL ( and rightfully so), the DL is as weak and perhaps weaker. Near the bottom of the league. Both lines need serious improvement.
 

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I dont see Walter Nolen as the solution at all. He doesnt remind me of Jalen Carter and I dont see the connection or reference point.

Drafting another 3T at #10 is just a replacement for Dexter imo.
Starters should only play about 2/3rds of the snaps to be effective anyway. There's room for another one inside.
 

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Precisely. Neither Dexter nor Billings should preclude the Bears from taking guys like Nolen. Or guys like Kenneth Grant, for that matter.

While a lot of attention has been focused on the OL ( and rightfully so), the DL is as weak and perhaps weaker. Near the bottom of the league. Both lines need serious improvement.
Yeah I mean you pretty much want 3 guys that can play around 60-70% of snaps and then a 4th guy that can play 10-20%. So something like.

Billings - 60%
Dexter - 60%
Nolan - 60%
4th DT - 20%
 

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I love that Booker has the motor and gives 100% effort but he needs to work on his strength and using his hands and bend to become a better pass rusher. Now that we got Dennis Allen and how he likes his edge rushers to have size like Montez Sweat, it's going to be hard for Booker to get on the field i would think.
While i would rather have Nolan, I do like that Green wrestled in college. It really does help with balance and leverage.
 

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