Do we have to have an offensive-minded head coach?

[WestCoastBearsFan]

If the HC is the one primarily working with the QB, you’ve lost before you even started. Adios.

As usual you have nothing of substance to offer. Take your L and move on.

 

[Myk]

Yep which is the whole point of this thread: that guy can come from anywhere, not just the offensive side of the ball. The problem is that success starts at the top and the bears ownership is some of the worst in professional sports.

If we're going to err I'd rather it be on the side of a HC who focuses too much on offense. With either you're likely to get more of what they're focused on.
Defense is a losing game with today's rules. I'm sure that ownership is and will push for defense or else we wouldn't have such a good defense with so many holes on offense that have been there the whole time we've had offensive minded HC and GM.

Short of Trestman losing the lockerroom and Emery's crazy contracts they were probably worth a 2nd shot because they were actually willing to try to have an offense. (But because of the contracts and lockerroom neither could get another try.)

We went to the superbowl in 2006 with a defensive head coach in Lovie Smith. He as 81-63 in his 9 year coaching stint. He was by far the most successful coach we've had since Ditka.

And we lost because we didn't have enough on offense to keep up with a powerhouse offense and no defense is perfect enough to stop a powerhouse all the time.
Until offense stops being treated as the redheaded stepchild on the Bears we're not going to have a perennial powerhouse. Those days are over.

 

[Bearin' Down]

Nagy has relied on an elite to really good defense though ?

Didnt Lovie? I'm not saying Nagy is good. I'm just saying asking for a defensive minded HC makes no sense in the NFL today

 

[remydat]

Herbert already looked good as a rookie, that is not applicable to any of the rookies this time around. And as far as those teams have historically been good that’s irrelevant. Argument could be made that the best young coaches in football right now are majority offensive (McVay, Stefanski, Shanny, LaFleur, Kingsburry, etc). The only notable exceptions for good young coaches that aren’t offensive guys are McDermott and Vrabel.

That is simply a function of more O coaches being hired as HCs over that time. Lynn, Marrone, O'Brien, Gase, Pederson, Kitchens, Garrett, Shurmur, and Jay Gruden are coaches fired the past 2 years with Jon Gruden joining them this year.

And of course it is relevant. The goal is sustained success. Those Non-O coaches have super bowls. The guys you referenced do not.

All you are doing is cherry picking examples that fit your narrative. Plenty of Omcpaches fail. Some succeed. There is no real evidence that going with an O coach is an advantage. It is just your preference.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

That is simply a function of more O coaches being hired as HCs over that time. Lynn, Marrone, O'Brien, Gase, Pederson, Kitchens, Garrett, Shurmur, and Jay Gruden are coaches fired the past 2 years with Jon Gruden joining them this year.

And of course it is relevant. The goal is sustained success. Those Non-O coaches have super bowls. The guys you referenced do not.

All you are doing is cherry picking examples that fit your narrative. Plenty of Omcpaches fail. Some succeed. There is no real evidence that going with an O coach is an advantage. It is just your preference.

There’s literally an advantage staring you in the face that you don’t want to acknowledge. QBs can grow with one offense and one play caller if it’s the head coach. Any OC that develops Justin into his potential will be hired away in 2 or 3 seasons tops. No guarantee of quality for his replacement. That’s a decided advantage that DCs and STCs simply don’t have.