Does Trading For Mack Buy Pace More Time?

[Mongo_76]

I've said since draft day, and after Pace traded away a crazy amount of picks to move up 1 spot, that Pace's tenure with the Bears will be directly tied to the success or failure of Mitch Trubisky.

And as we've seen, Trubisky has yet to take that next step from crappy to mediocre. And obviously until he takes that step, he can't take the following step from mediocre to good. And since he's still at crappy, and not yet at mediocre or good, "franchise QB" status is no where in sight.

So, I suspected that if Mitch didn't take any of those steps, Pace maybe had another year after this one.

But, in picking up Mack, Pace elevated a top 10 Defense to potential top 3 level. The Bears defense is already Top 10 in several defensive categories: Sacks, TOP, points allowed, Penalties, Yards rushing, forced fumbles, Defensive points scored....

So, the question is simple, does Pace trading away the teams future to bring in Mack to build a dominating defense buy him more time if Trubisky ends up continuing to be crappy and busts?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

No.

 

[Rush]

Yes.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Yes.

I disagree.

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

Yes. Wins buy him time. Great drafting too. No being the league laughing stock buys Pace time.

 

[Rush]

I disagree.

And I am ok with that. As responsible adults, I believe we can acknowledge each other have opposing stances and that you're wrong.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

No, QB is the most important position... he done fucked up big time there.

 

[HansGruber]

Simple answer is ...Yes

Trading for Mack has been the best thing Pace has pulled off to date and it has paid off immensely.

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[Mongo_76]

And I am ok with that. As responsible adults, I believe we can acknowledge each other have opposing stances and that you're wrong.

This is a borderline personal attack. Can I ask the new mods to step in and judge?

 

[nc0gnet0]

Yes, assuming it buys him more wins.

 

[westcoast bear fanatic]

Depends how long he sticks with Mitchell if he continues to prove a bust. If Pace pulls a rabbit out of a hat and can bring in real QB competition in the next year or two then he can survive Mitch. But if he pins all his faith in Mitchell then Pace and him are tied at the hip.

 

[Rush]

This is a borderline personal attack. Can I ask the new mods to step in and judge?

 

[Mongo_76]

Depends how long he sticks with Mitchell if he continues to prove a bust. If Pace pulls a rabbit out of a hat and can bring in real QB competition in the next year or two then he can survive Mitch. But if he pins all his faith in Mitchell then Pace and him are tied at the hip.

Interesting angle here. So, if he can convince the coaches to give up on Trubisky sooner than later, he is less likeyl to be shit-canned.

You think GM's should be allowed to tell coaches who to play?

 

[Doubledown]

8-9 wins for a few years keeps his job, having to Draft or bring in FA QB he should be gone.

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

Pace is tied to us being a better team. Even if Trubs fails Pace is fine if we have a winning record.

 

[Zion]

I don't think the next guy is likely to be any better than Pace at his job, if history is any indication he's likely to be much worse. So I would just stick with Pace. He's done enough good for me to want him to stick around even if Mitch does bust.

 

[BNB]

I don't think so.... Or at least not in a direct way.

It's really tied to the performance of the team, and Mack will help with that. So if we win more games, then yeah, Pace will get more time. If we still finish like 4-12, I don't think because we traded for Mack, Pace will stick around.

 

[Mongo_76]

Pace is tied to us being a better team. Even if Trubs fails Pace is fine if we have a winning record.

I get that Bears fans have been kicked repeatedly in the nuts by Trestman and Fox and being 8-8 or 9-7 is an improvement. But Why is "winning record" good enough. We likely have a SB caliber defense. If our QB keeps shitting the bed and costing us games like week 1, there is no way we start winning playoff games.

Isn't winning the SB the real goal?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

And I am ok with that. As responsible adults, I believe we can acknowledge each other have opposing stances and that you're wrong.

That’s why I love you. ����

 

[westcoast bear fanatic]

Interesting angle here. So, if he can convince the coaches to give up on Trubisky sooner than later, he is less likeyl to be shit-canned.

You think GM's should be allowed to tell coaches who to play?

Nah. I suspect Nagy will be the one begging for an upgrade. Question is will Pace oblige?