Double & Triple amount of Flags thrown!

[Bearman 43]

So,how long will it take before the NFL decides to penalize blatant miss calls by these officials, deciding who wins and who loses games?



Illegal contact quadruples, defensive holding doubles from 2013

Posted by Michael David Smith on October 11, 2014, 8:29 AM EDT
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The NFL was serious when it said officials would throw more flags for illegal contact and pass interference this season.

Statistics released by the league on Friday reveal that through the first five weeks of the season, there have been nearly four times as many illegal contact penalties as there were through the first five weeks of 2013. And there have been more than twice as many defensive holding penalties. Illegal contact has increased from 15 calls in Weeks 1-5 last year to 59 calls this year. Defensive holding has increased from 52 in Weeks 1-5 last year to 115 this year.

Overall there have been a total of 163 more penalties called this year than at the same point last year. In addition to the increase in illegal contact and defensive holding, NFL officials have thrown 14 more offensive pass interference flags, 48 more illegal use of hands flags and seven more flags for taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct.

Many fans think the officials have gone too far and that games are getting slowed down by constant calls from the officials, but the league says that in reality, games are moving along more quickly this year: The average time of a game has gone down from 3:09:44 last year to 3:05:41 this year.

 

[BNB]

All these rule changes are making it much more difficult for defenders, particularly defensive backs, to, well, defend. It's no surprise that most of these penalties are on the defense.

Soon, pretty much every game is gonna be like 56-42 and every QB is gonna end the season with 5,000+ yards and 40+ TD's. It's getting too easy to play offense.

 

[TheWinman]

It's not the length of the game that really bothers me and the league says games are 4 minutes quicker. It's how so many penalties just ruin the flow of the game. It's like watching the pitcher continuously throw to first base, it sucks

 

[Tjodalv]

Flagged! You're now only allowed to post in the Cutler sub-forum. And you may also be subject to a fine...your first born must be given into the custody of the Fister.

 

[Calabis]

Still didnt know blindside blocks were illegal...but then allowed on Briggs

 

[iueyedoc]

It's not the length of the game that really bothers me and the league says games are 4 minutes quicker. It's how so many penalties just ruin the flow of the game. It's like watching the pitcher continuously throw to first base, it sucks

Exactly. I can't imagine with the increased amount of penalties how games can be shorter, but regardless they are much more laborsome to watch.

 

[botfly10]

It's not the length of the game that really bothers me and the league says games are 4 minutes quicker. It's how so many penalties just ruin the flow of the game. It's like watching the pitcher continuously throw to first base, it sucks

Not to mention the impact the calls have on the game. Its getting to where plays executed by players are having a smaller overall impact on game outcomes than penalties.

Thats where the evaluation should happen. Not the total number of penalties, but their impact on the game.

Further, the NFL seems to want game to be close. Well, if you are talking about 1 score games, the impact of penalties becomes that much more egregious.

If they are going to keep calling shit the same way, they at least need to reevaluate which penalties give an automatic first down. To much ticky tacky shit can give a first down, making that dumb ass penalty more impactful that a sack for a 20 yard loss. Fucking bullshit.

 

[PrimeTime]

All these rule changes are making it much more difficult for defenders, particularly defensive backs, to, well, defend. It's no surprise that most of these penalties are on the defense.

Soon, pretty much every game is gonna be like 56-42 and every QB is gonna end the season with 5,000+ yards and 40+ TD's. It's getting too easy to play offense.

Deon Sanders was the best CB to play the game, he also was one of the least physical. The problem is a lot of college programs and more than a few NFL coaches are teaching CB's to play physical because they don't have the true talent to play CB by the rules. Just look at some old Deon video and you will see how the position is supposed to be played. It's getting a little tiring listening to people complain about refs not letting CB's play only because they don't understand the rules and don't remember when CB's were taught to play the position the right way.

A lot of this started in 2001 with Billicheat and the Patriots. Since then there have been a lot of copycats. Billicheats premise was the refs are not going to call holding on every play. His actual words were "Who would want to watch a game like that". I'm all for the refs calling it each and every time until coaches realize they have to teach their CB's to play the position the right way.

 

[botfly10]

So you're saying the solution is for every team to get 4 CBs with Deion Sanders level talent?

You know Sanders is probably the greatest man corner in the history of the NFL, right?

 

[PrimeTime]

Deion wasn't the only corner QB's stayed away from back then.

 

[PrimeTime]

Deion, Rod Woodson, D Green, A Williams, T Newman could have played in todays game at a high level without having to grab and hold on every play. I'm not saying every team should have 2 pro-bowl caliber CB's but that doesn't mean you change the rules or don't call it properly because of it.

 

[BringBackDitka54]

Every time a flag is thrown, the game is paused. It completely ruins the flow of the game. Bears games this year have been less entertaining, and I hardly ever bother with watching other teams play anymore.

 

[Tjodalv]

Every time a flag is thrown, the game is paused. It completely ruins the flow of the game. Bears games this year have been less entertaining, and I hardly ever bother with watching other teams play anymore.

This is probably a good thing for our D, since they can't seem to adjust on the fly when teams run a hurry/no-huddle.

 

[BNB]

Deon Sanders was the best CB to play the game, he also was one of the least physical. The problem is a lot of college programs and more than a few NFL coaches are teaching CB's to play physical because they don't have the true talent to play CB by the rules. Just look at some old Deon video and you will see how the position is supposed to be played. It's getting a little tiring listening to people complain about refs not letting CB's play only because they don't understand the rules and don't remember when CB's were taught to play the position the right way.

A lot of this started in 2001 with Billicheat and the Patriots. Since then there have been a lot of copycats. Billicheats premise was the refs are not going to call holding on every play. His actual words were "Who would want to watch a game like that". I'm all for the refs calling it each and every time until coaches realize they have to teach their CB's to play the position the right way.

Like Bot said, Deon Sanders was amazing. If every corner could player like him, I'm sure they would.

But even Deon had the benefit of playing in an era in which the rules helped him.

In today's NFL, defenders get flagged for going too low, too high, for hitting a defenseless receiver, making contact after 5 yards, and obviously holding and PI.

After 5 yards, NFL receivers are pretty much running free. Not only are they running free, but they can now run through the middle or wherever else and jump for a ball knowing they can safely catch it without getting blasted.... But if they do, it doesn't matter because it's going to be a penalty and they'll still be moving the ball down field.

Do you really think QB's throwing for an all-time high completion percentage and having all-time highs in QB rating is because DB's are playing too physical or because they aren't playing "the right way"? 10 years ago, a completion percentage of 60 was considered pretty good. Now it's nothing special. In 2002, Matt Hasselbeck finished 5th in the league with a completion percentage of 63.7. Today, that would rank 16th in the NFL. In 2002, PEyton Manning was 5th in the league with a rating of 88.8. Today, that would put him at 18th tied with Alex Smith.

It's the rules making it easy for the offense and hard for the defense. Face it.

 

[ClydeLee]

Refs are penalized by Blatant miscalls... their success at calls is how they get judged to be fired, promoted, or given playoff games.

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[botfly10]

Deion, Rod Woodson, D Green, A Williams, T Newman could have played in todays game at a high level without having to grab and hold on every play. I'm not saying every team should have 2 pro-bowl caliber CB's but that doesn't mean you change the rules or don't call it properly because of it.

You're saying that CBs in today's game struggle because they are all doing it wrong?

 

[Mongo_76]

All these rule changes are making it much more difficult for defenders, particularly defensive backs, to, well, defend. It's no surprise that most of these penalties are on the defense.

Soon, pretty much every game is gonna be like 56-42 and every QB is gonna end the season with 5,000+ yards and 40+ TD's. It's getting too easy to play offense.

The single biggest bump in the value of the NFL (due to spectators) in recent years was Fantasy football.

before fantasy football, most fans watched their team play and then maybe caught the monday night game.

now fantasy fans are watching their team, the late game, Sunday night, Monday and thursday. Kids are playing. Women are playing. It's drawn billions for the NFL.

Low scoring defensive battles are the nemesis of fantasy football. Similarly, a team running the ball, wasting the clock, is bad.


The league is adjusting to where and their fan base is spending money - not dictating it.

 

[Novak]

The single biggest bump in the value of the NFL (due to spectators) in recent years was Fantasy football.

before fantasy football, most fans watched their team play and then maybe caught the monday night game.

now fantasy fans are watching their team, the late game, Sunday night, Monday and thursday.

Low scoring defensive battles are the nemesis of fantasy football. Similarly, a team running the ball, wasting the clock, is bad.


The league is adjusting to where and their fan base is spending money - not dictating it.

As much as i hate this, unfortunately you are correct. It's all about fantasy football nowadays.

 

[BNB]

The single biggest bump in the value of the NFL (due to spectators) in recent years was Fantasy football.

before fantasy football, most fans watched their team play and then maybe caught the monday night game.

now fantasy fans are watching their team, the late game, Sunday night, Monday and thursday.

Low scoring defensive battles are the nemesis of fantasy football. Similarly, a team running the ball, wasting the clock, is bad.


The league is adjusting to where and their fan base is spending money - not dictating it.

I've always felt that the reason why the NFL has made these changes is because they WANT more scoring because high scoring games do bring higher ratings.

The NBA made a bunch of changes in the 90's that made it more difficult to play defense. As a result, the games were higher scoring and ratings went up. That's what the NBA wanted, and they didn't really hide from it.

I feel like the NFL is using player safety as the reason why they're making these changes, when in reality it's the money. Now, I definitely do think player safety plays some part in it. A lot of these changes happened as the NFL was being sued by former players. So they wanted to show they were making changes to make the game safer. However, some of the rule changes are ridiculous and have very little to do with player safety.

 

[Mongo_76]

The NBA made a bunch of changes in the 90's that made it more difficult to play defense. As a result, the games were higher scoring and ratings went up. That's what the NBA wanted, and they didn't really hide from it.

And MLB was directly involved in the steroid era by looking the other way and livening up the ball.

The days of the grind it out, tough nose football are gone.

Now, if you like watching a defensive game, or handing the ball off 35 times, the fantasy generation calls you a "meathead".

It's why there are so many Bears fans that are giddy about our "2013 offense" over the team we had in 2012. the actual win-loss record almost takes a back seat to yards...