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So since we'll all be dead in a year. .. let's discuss ebola.
What are the facts and how real is the threat?
What are the facts and how real is the threat?
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Ebola is spread by Redwing fans. Cull them now to save the Country!!!!!!!!</p>
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I don't know the level of threat as far as epidemic is concerned. However, for our government to LIE to us (once again) and tell us that it is 100% contained and that there is no way for the disease to come to the USA without them knowing is just plain bullshit. We may have people at airports looking for signs of sickness, but they are not trained experts or medical professionals. We aren't even doing something as simple as taking temperatures.</p>
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Airports are only one way people gain entry into this country. Are we also checking the passengers and crew members of all freight ships coming into the country? I doubt it. What about our non-existent Southern border? What's stopping people infected from migrating north from the Third World Country beneath us? Mexico surely isn't screening people who fly into their country, so therefore it could spread to their population, and then transported here.</p>
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Airports are only one way people gain entry into this country. Are we also checking the passengers and crew members of all freight ships coming into the country? I doubt it. What about our non-existent Southern border? What's stopping people infected from migrating north from the Third World Country beneath us? Mexico surely isn't screening people who fly into their country, so therefore it could spread to their population, and then transported here.</p>
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I doubt the epidemic would spread outside Africa. Just the odd infected person here and there but the better healthcare is the difference. Ebola is a slowly mutating virus so the risk of it mutating to something more dangerous is slim. But a worldwide pandemic wiping out a bunch of people hasn't happened in a while so maybe this is the next one.</p>
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Mother Nature keeps trying to help us thin the heard, and yall motherfuckers just keep stopping her.
Everything I've read says it's nothing more than the media blowing it out of proportion and isn't that real of a threat.
Don't:
Eat feces, drink piss/semen, touch dead bodies who died of Ebola, touch bats.
Everything I've read says it's nothing more than the media blowing it out of proportion and isn't that real of a threat.
Don't:
Eat feces, drink piss/semen, touch dead bodies who died of Ebola, touch bats.
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Considering HIV has been around confirmed for 10-20 years before the start of the 1980's pandemic (and theoretically made the jump from simians to humans in the 1920's), It could be decades before the full impact is known for Ebola.</p>
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SARS was a huge fizzle in the next big pandemic that the media blew completely out of proportion. But conversely, another Spanish Flu-like pandemic is definitly not out of the question--especially since a lot of people can be reluctant to follow common sense when it comes to stopping the spread of a communicable disease.</p>
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SARS was a huge fizzle in the next big pandemic that the media blew completely out of proportion. But conversely, another Spanish Flu-like pandemic is definitly not out of the question--especially since a lot of people can be reluctant to follow common sense when it comes to stopping the spread of a communicable disease.</p>
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It's only bodily fluid borne right?</p>
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That's what I gather--the only way it's remotely airborne is if someone infected hocks a loogie into a mucous membrane</p>
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Just bodily fluid.
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FYI when someone coughs or sneezes they spray airborne droplets of body fluids for anywhere 10-50 feet depending on which it was and how forceful. So yeah body fluids can be airborne. How else would grimsons end up on the ceiling?</p>
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FYI when someone coughs or sneezes they spray airborne droplets of body fluids for anywhere 10-50 feet depending on which it was and how forceful. So yeah body fluids can be airborne. How else would grimsons end up on the ceiling?</p>
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I've got to stop making out with TCD after he gets done licking toilet seats in Liberia.</p>
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FYI when someone coughs or sneezes they spray airborne droplets of body fluids for anywhere 10-50 feet depending on which it was and how forceful. So yeah body fluids can be airborne. How else would grimsons end up on the ceiling?</p>
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I've got to stop making out with TCD after he gets done licking toilet seats in Liberia.</p>
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Where is that ass clown (TCD) lately? </p>
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Where is that ass clown (TCD) lately? </p>
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He trolls around on FB. He tried to come on here the other day but says it looks like things haven't changed.</p>
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Where is that ass clown (TCD) lately? </p>
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He trolls around on FB. He tried to come on here the other day but says it looks like things haven't changed.</p>
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As I was eating dinner last night the subject of ebola entered my thoughts (and this thread). I love spicy food. Often, while I'm eating, my nose runs. I wipe my nose with a napkin and continue eating. That napkin then gets placed on the table or the chair, depending on where I am eating. When I am finished with that meal, I throw that napkin away (unless it is the type of establishment that has a busser or server who clears the table). Would it be impossible for someone to come in contact with that napkin or the spot it touched the table or char before they were cleaned? What if the busser or host didn't clean those items properly? Even though I use a napkin to wipe my nose, should I be expected to wash my hands each time before putting them on something else, like a salt shaker or bottle of hot sauce?</p>
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For people to believe there is no chance (or a small chance) for this type of stuff to be spread is naive (IMO). I consider myself to be a pretty clean, and thoughtful person, but in my examples I could see how easily mucous-borne germs could be spread. Let's not even get into snot-nosed kids touching everything in sight.</p>
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For people to believe there is no chance (or a small chance) for this type of stuff to be spread is naive (IMO). I consider myself to be a pretty clean, and thoughtful person, but in my examples I could see how easily mucous-borne germs could be spread. Let's not even get into snot-nosed kids touching everything in sight.</p>
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As I was eating dinner last night the subject of ebola entered my thoughts (and this thread). I love spicy food. Often, while I'm eating, my nose runs. I wipe my nose with a napkin and continue eating. That napkin then gets placed on the table or the chair, depending on where I am eating. When I am finished with that meal, I throw that napkin away (unless it is the type of establishment that has a busser or server who clears the table). Would it be impossible for someone to come in contact with that napkin or the spot it touched the table or char before they were cleaned? What if the busser or host didn't clean those items properly? Even though I use a napkin to wipe my nose, should I be expected to wash my hands each time before putting them on something else, like a salt shaker or bottle of hot sauce?</p>
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For people to believe there is no chance (or a small chance) for this type of stuff to be spread is naive (IMO). I consider myself to be a pretty clean, and thoughtful person, but in my examples I could see how easily mucous-borne germs could be spread. Let's not even get into snot-nosed kids touching everything in sight.</p>
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The question is... how contagious is the virus? How long can you be exposed to it and be relatively safe from contracting it.</p>
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As I was eating dinner last night the subject of ebola entered my thoughts (and this thread). I love spicy food. Often, while I'm eating, my nose runs. I wipe my nose with a napkin and continue eating. That napkin then gets placed on the table or the chair, depending on where I am eating. When I am finished with that meal, I throw that napkin away (unless it is the type of establishment that has a busser or server who clears the table). Would it be impossible for someone to come in contact with that napkin or the spot it touched the table or char before they were cleaned? What if the busser or host didn't clean those items properly? Even though I use a napkin to wipe my nose, should I be expected to wash my hands each time before putting them on something else, like a salt shaker or bottle of hot sauce?</p>
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For people to believe there is no chance (or a small chance) for this type of stuff to be spread is naive (IMO). I consider myself to be a pretty clean, and thoughtful person, but in my examples I could see how easily mucous-borne germs could be spread. Let's not even get into snot-nosed kids touching everything in sight.</p>
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The question is... how contagious is the virus? How long can you be exposed to it and be relatively safe from contracting it.</p>
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Ebola can survive on a surface suspended in body fluids for several days, on a dry surface several hours. So a snot rag full of mucous discarded at a restaurant is definitely a viable vector for transmission, provided it comes in contact with another persons mucosal surfaces/orifaces</p>
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There's a good Q&A paper from the CDC for the general public that answers many of these questions in layman's terms. I'd link to it but I can't on my work laptop for some stupid reason. </p>
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There's a good Q&A paper from the CDC for the general public that answers many of these questions in layman's terms. I'd link to it but I can't on my work laptop for some stupid reason. </p>
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I believe victims of Ebola are only contagious when they have symptoms and not when they are "healthy" enough to travel around. That's why some experts think that screening at airports is useless and doesn't really help in containing the infection. Infected persons could pass through without anyone noticing.</p>
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They can also use the airport bathrooms and shit like that, and no one will "notice". They'll just think someone is sick. </p>
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Frankly, as much as I like the fact screenings will be done, it won't solve the issue. People are going to be misinformed and thought of as having ebola in the "non-intelligent" portions of the United States when the person may just have the common cold... </p>
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Frankly, as much as I like the fact screenings will be done, it won't solve the issue. People are going to be misinformed and thought of as having ebola in the "non-intelligent" portions of the United States when the person may just have the common cold... </p>
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(CNN) -- A healthcare worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital has tested positive for Ebola after a preliminary test, the state's health agency said.
Confirmatory testing will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
The employee helped care for Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person ever diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. Duncan died on Wednesday.
"We knew a second case could be a reality, and we've been preparing for this possibility," Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services, said in a statement Sunday morning.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/eb ... ?hpt=hp_t1</p>
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And in a press conference it was said the hcw was wearing a full Haz mat suit. "Not that contagious" huh?</p>
Confirmatory testing will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
The employee helped care for Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person ever diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. Duncan died on Wednesday.
"We knew a second case could be a reality, and we've been preparing for this possibility," Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services, said in a statement Sunday morning.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/eb ... ?hpt=hp_t1</p>
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And in a press conference it was said the hcw was wearing a full Haz mat suit. "Not that contagious" huh?</p>
