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Who said that?</p>
 

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Right in the CNN article.</p>


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"Ebola not very contagious"</p>


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Tell that to the 4000 dead.</p>
 

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Oh! guess I should have actually read it.   Not the brightest reporter.  I think the hazmat suits and CDC teams disinfecting everythimng you touch are kind of a tip off.</p>
 

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Right in the CNN article.</p>


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"Ebola not very contagious"</p>


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Tell that to the 4000 dead.</p>
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Well, relative to other viruses it's kind of true. Lack of proper healthcare, education and hygiene is what has caused so many deaths in West Africa.</p>
 

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Ebola can survive on a surface suspended in body fluids for several days, on a dry surface several hours.   So a snot rag full of mucous discarded at a restaurant is definitely a viable vector for transmission, provided it comes in contact with another persons mucosal surfaces/orifaces</p>


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There's a good Q&A paper from the CDC for the general public that answers many of these questions in layman's terms.   I'd link to it but I can't on my work laptop for some stupid reason. </p>
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Assuming that the cleanup crew at a restaraunt or anywhere is doing their job--that means transmission is highly unlikely.</p>
 

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Don't you have to come into contact with the bodily fluids of someone exhibiting symptoms?</p>
 

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2nd Health care worker in Dallas with confirmed Ebola.   She flew to Ohio and back the day before symptoms appeared.  The plane(s) made other flights that day before being shut down.  </p>


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Can I get a face palm please.       </p>


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Apparently during the 48 hours before Duncan's case was confirmed but he was symptomatic with bloody diarrhea and projectile vomiting the facility was not following CDC Ebola precautions or providing correct protective gear to staff according to a major US Nursing Advocate organization.</p>


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I guess that is a breach in protocol....</p>
 

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Assuming that the cleanup crew at a restaraunt or anywhere is doing their job--that means transmission is highly unlikely.</p>
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I think we are about to find out just how true/untrue that might be.     </p>
 

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CDC approved the airline travel for this patient.  She had an elevated body temp (99.5F), but did not meet the fever threshhold of 100.4F.</p>
 

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Serious question to Wino (and anyone else).  I'm scheduled to fly to Dallas on the 27th for a MEDICAL conference where clinicians, lab techs, nurses, etc will be there.</p>


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Would you think twice about going?</p>
 

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I'm traveling to Nashville in December and I'm considering driving.


Dunno if it's my OCD or not but these outbreaks need to start not happening. Quarantine them all and no allowance into the US from countries that have it. Sorry, but we gotta be more proactive till shits figured out.
 

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I'm traveling to Nashville in December and I'm considering driving.


Dunno if it's my OCD or not but these outbreaks need to start not happening. Quarantine them all and no allowance into the US from countries that have it. Sorry, but we gotta be more proactive till shits figured out.</p>
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Yep, at least ban entry for anyone with a passport or visa from those countries.</p>
 

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It's almost as if someone knew something would happen.</p>


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http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-04-01-quarantine_N.htm
<span style="font-size:150%;">Obama administration scraps quarantine regulations</span>
<span style="color:#BF0000;">Posted 4/1/2010 8:53 PM</span>

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/4/ebola-in-the-us-stricter-travel-quarantine-practic/#!
<span style="font-size:150%;">Ebola in the U.S.: Stricter travel quarantine practices dropped by Obama admin. in 2010</span>

By Kellan Howell - The Washington Times - Saturday, October 4, 2014</p>
 

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That would be awesome.... I sooooo hope the idiot dies... the sooner the better.</p>
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That would mean Joe Biden would be the next POTUS. Life in the White House would be no different.  


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That would mean Joe Biden would be the next POTUS. Life in the White House would be no different.  


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Dammit.... touche.</p>
 

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Serious question to Wino (and anyone else).  I'm scheduled to fly to Dallas on the 27th for a MEDICAL conference where clinicians, lab techs, nurses, etc will be there.</p>


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Would you think twice about going?</p>
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No.   But I'd be careful what I touched and wash my hands frequently.   For the record, I generally do that anyway.   Not really a germaphobe, but my RA medication suppresses my immune system a little, particularly respiratory stuff.</p>
 

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To extrapolate that, I do think the CDC fumbled the ball on this regarding Duncan and the hospital in Dallas as well as restricting travel for those health care workers with direct contact with Duncan, but the chances of getting Ebola from brief periods in a room or casual shake hands contact with somebody that is in a  low risk category or the general public at large really is remote at best.   Your at a greater risk of death from driving to the airport..  </p>


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I think the CDC will now be in over-reaction mode regarding public travel since they have egg on their face.</p>
 

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Bama to the rescue, he has appointed an Ebola Czar. No worries now.
 

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