Favorite Playoff Moment?

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The end of that game pissed me off so much man...

yeah. we could taste the win, and it was gone. just like that. In spite of the loss, that game was just a great game to watch. Game 1 was great cause of rose. Game 6 noah's steal. Game 4 and 2 were just incredible to watch. we all know what happened in 3 and 7.
 

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yeah. we could taste the win, and it was gone. just like that. In spite of the loss, that game was just a great game to watch. Game 1 was great cause of rose. Game 6 noah's steal. Game 4 and 2 were just incredible to watch. we all know what happened in 3 and 7.

I only wish Luol Deng was there man... that would have been too much for Boston that series and I think it would have helped Gordon's shot selection and Rose might have been even more unstoppable than he was.
 

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUKVjW9PNcY]YouTube - Rajon Rondo Sucks[/ame]

on the topic of the bulls celtics series, man i still hate rondo. I hope that guy gets punched in his giant alien head.

bulls blogger tweeted " when asked about the improvements rose made, rondo said he didn't want to talk about other pg's".

yeup, rondo is still an asshat. The guy wasn't asking for your honest assesment of rose's game, he just wanted the league's standard talking points. Instead, rondo became a diva. asshat.
 

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My favorite teams
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The '98 Bulls were pretty healthy down-the-stretch of the season... Honestly, I just think defense matters more than anything. Pippen and Jordan were great shooters and low-post scorers by 1998. Obviously, they were great all-around players for their entire careers... but they improved despite not flying around. And back to defense... it was undeniably better in 1998 while, admittedly on my part, the offense was undeniably worse. But if that 1998 team happened to be scoring (or if Jordan was feeling it), that's really a team that's almost impossible to beat... and that's why I'm saying that head-to-head I really like the '98 Bulls more (in my eyes).

The only real upside on offense of the '98 team was that they had a 3rd big time scoring wing in Toni Kukoc who did have some nice point skills as a 6'11'' guy too. Horace Grant not being there would hurt. But Pippen was a lot stronger by 1998 and both he and Jordan were more skilled on the low-block by then--- not enough to completely make up for the lack of Grant, but it made up for some of that high percentage scoring. In 1993, Jordan and Pippen were definitely faster and created transition scoring opportunities out of short rebounded balls at time. By 1998, they really couldn't do that anymore, but the team was forcing so many turnovers that they were getting just as many fast breaks. It's definitely all opinion but that's a strong belief of mine that the 1998 team was at least somewhat better than the 1993 team.

This is what I don't like about comparing teams, it's the information that gets skewed over time, especially between multiple generations. Again, you're allowed to believe whatever you want to believe, but that doesn't change anything.

I strongly believe Rodman is superior to Grant, offensively and defensively. The older Rodman was more athletic than Grant in his prime, but while Rodman played, he wasn't fully healthy in 98, so it doesn't matter. BJ Armstrong in 93 was superior to every guard in 98 not named Jordan in nearly every aspect. He was nulled by KJ considerably, but I don't think Harper would do the same thing, especially when Harper was a few steps slower in 98. In 93 Jordan was a better defender than in 98. He was more aggressive and still had the same footwork. I believe Jordan was more competitive in 93, even to this date, I get mad that he is only remembered for 1 flu game, but the 97 flu game was NOT his first time going off with the flu. In the 93 playoffs he dropped 55 in game 4 sick, but somehow that was ignored because he didn't have 2 moments hugging Pippen that ultimately sold the 97 game into infamy. Cartwright, as much as I don't care for him, was still superior to every center the 98 team produced. I would take Burger King over Longley in 93(apparently, so did Minnesota). Harper was significantly slower and Randy Brown was a joke in 98, Kerr did his thing, but I like BJ in 93 for pure 3pt shooting over Kerr in 98. I would take Paxson over Harper, Brown and Kerr for overall game. Kukoc was a stud, Pippen was a stud, and healthy... they were not. Jordan was given so many gifts from the refs in 98, and as a Bulls fans, I hate admitting to it, but he was giftwrapped extra whistles. An occurrence that did not happen anywhere near as much in 93, because Jordan did not retire, and he did not put the world of basketball into the shock of losing it's ultimate figurehead.
 

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YouTube - Rajon Rondo Sucks

on the topic of the bulls celtics series, man i still hate rondo. I hope that guy gets punched in his giant alien head.

bulls blogger tweeted " when asked about the improvements rose made, rondo said he didn't want to talk about other pg's".

yeup, rondo is still an asshat. The guy wasn't asking for your honest assesment of rose's game, he just wanted the league's standard talking points. Instead, rondo became a diva. asshat.

Man between Rondo and Ray Allen... that has to be the best alien ass head backcourt of all time haha. But yeah Rondo is definitely quite sensitive. He is extremely competitive but the only reason he gets away with having his personality is because he is far from the alphamale of that team. And nobody would ever have thought he was the league's best PG if he didn't play with the likes of KG, Pierce, and Allen. He is no Chris Paul.
 

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Pax's winner was with 3.9 seconds left. 3.9 or... 39.. or 93 backwards! 93 Finals, 93 champs! haha

That Phoenix series was my hands down, favorite finals. Those unlucky Bulls fans who didn't witness the 92-93 season like to downgrade the series, like it was the weakest of the 6. I never understood how, unless they just weren't around, or they didn't watch it.
Maybe it's just me, but I am convinced that if the Bulls were not in the Finals those six years that the Western Conference team would have won (maybe not the Lakers, maybe), and really that is why I really don't think you can question that of different 'dynasties' that the Bulls of the '90's were the best. The teams they had to beat (in a much more competitive NBA, imo) were just ungodly.

That Blazers team was fucking good. So were the Suns. The Sonics....forget about it. Throw in the second best combination of superstars for the time and you have a Utah team that would have won back to back.

Not to mention the teams in the East they had to beat to get there. The Knicks in the early 3 and then Orlando and Indiana in the second 3. Fucking buzzsaw that they had to go through.
 

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Game 4 in that playoff series we swept the heat because it was the first Bulls game I watched live in TV

and of course:

game 6 of the Boston series. What a game!
 

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My favorite teams
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In 1992-93, the Bulls finished 57-25 with Jordan and Pippen playing the entire regular season practically. They had a lot of trouble in the final two rounds... losing the first two games to the Knicks in the ECF and losing 2 out of 3 in Chicago vs. the Barkley/KJ/Majerle Suns.

In 1997-98, the Bulls finished 62-20 with Pippen missing the first 35 games of the regular season. After starting out 23-11, the Bulls ended the season on a 37-9 tear. They struggled against a tough Indiana team in 7 games... but that was perhaps the best team they ever faced in a playoff series throughout all 6 of those Championship seasons. They then faced the Jazz in the NBA Finals who had over a week's rest in-wait for the Bulls and they lost the opening game in the Delta Center in OT. They then won Game 2 in SLC. Then DESTROYED the Jazz 96-54 in a huge route and COMPLETELY shut down the Jazz' offense. The next two games in Chicago were both close and the Jazz pulled an upset off of 38 or 39 points from Malone while Jordan and Pippen both struggled from the field. Kukoc nearly carried them to a win in that game and gave the Bulls a chance to tie or win on a heave by Jordan. The Bulls then lost Pippen in the opening minutes of Game 6 and Rodman looked out-of-sorts (perhaps from partying in Vegas the night before?). Pippen came back in the 2nd half and Jordan struggled from the field once again, but the Bulls STILL managed to put the Jazz away in the final minute... we all know how that happened.

I'd say, healthy, the '98 Bulls were easily the better team than the '93 Bulls.
The 1992 Portland Trail Blazers were the best team they faced.
 

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That Portland team was sick. I didn't have a whole lot of money back then, but I HAD to have ....
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And I played this until my fingers bled LOL!!!
 

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Anyways, my favorite moment(s) was Rodman during the whole '96 Finals.
 

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This is what I don't like about comparing teams, it's the information that gets skewed over time, especially between multiple generations. Again, you're allowed to believe whatever you want to believe, but that doesn't change anything.

I strongly believe Rodman is superior to Grant, offensively and defensively. The older Rodman was more athletic than Grant in his prime, but while Rodman played, he wasn't fully healthy in 98, so it doesn't matter. BJ Armstrong in 93 was superior to every guard in 98 not named Jordan in nearly every aspect. He was nulled by KJ considerably, but I don't think Harper would do the same thing, especially when Harper was a few steps slower in 98. In 93 Jordan was a better defender than in 98. He was more aggressive and still had the same footwork. I believe Jordan was more competitive in 93, even to this date, I get mad that he is only remembered for 1 flu game, but the 97 flu game was NOT his first time going off with the flu. In the 93 playoffs he dropped 55 in game 4 sick, but somehow that was ignored because he didn't have 2 moments hugging Pippen that ultimately sold the 97 game into infamy. Cartwright, as much as I don't care for him, was still superior to every center the 98 team produced. I would take Burger King over Longley in 93(apparently, so did Minnesota). Harper was significantly slower and Randy Brown was a joke in 98, Kerr did his thing, but I like BJ in 93 for pure 3pt shooting over Kerr in 98. I would take Paxson over Harper, Brown and Kerr for overall game. Kukoc was a stud, Pippen was a stud, and healthy... they were not. Jordan was given so many gifts from the refs in 98, and as a Bulls fans, I hate admitting to it, but he was giftwrapped extra whistles. An occurrence that did not happen anywhere near as much in 93, because Jordan did not retire, and he did not put the world of basketball into the shock of losing it's ultimate figurehead.

I admit that Game 6 was hand-wrapped and delivered to the Bulls in 1998 in Utah- the Eisley three that was taken away and the Ron Harper runner that should have been a shot clock violation. But I don't think that when the playoffs came around that you generally heard a lot of ridiculous whistles in Jordan's favor. He obviously got more benefit of the doubt calls than anybody else and maybe they would look the other way if he traveled. But it's not the way it would be if he played in this era of no handchecking.

Rodman was simply absent that entire end of that Utah series on the boards and was starting to decline in 1998 but his presense was still felt on the defensive end... In 1993, Scott Williams and a lethargic Bill Cartwright were the Bulls' two-headed monster at the center position... I actually like Luc Longely and Bill Wennington more because Longely (at that point) was just as viable of a defensive player as Cartwright because he could defend the paint. Cartwright was still a tenacious low-post defender but really offered nothing on the offensive end. I like Longely and Wennington much more than those two because they offered you more rebounding, interior defense, and had automatic 10-foot jumpers when left wide open. I like Ron Harper and Steve Kerr more than B.J. Armstrong and John Paxson as well. Harper was an athletic scorer and much better than any other guard defensively Jordan ever played next to. Harper could only score from mid-range and in but he did play pretty well with his back to the basket pretty well. The versatility of all 5 guys on the Bulls offensively was more appropriate for the nature of the triangle because their only real liability was Rodman's ability to shoot the ball when Dennis was on the floor. But even Dennis was a well-rounded offensive player because of his athleticism and passing, as I have no doubt you know... Kukoc's, Wennington's, Longely's ability to stretch the floor (and Pippen and Jordan's two man inside-outside attack) also was perfect offensively for the triangle.

I actually believe that the '98 Bulls could beat the '93 Bulls even if they weren't healthy because of the obvious advantage on the boards and when it comes to turnovers to easy buckets. I guess I am going to need to disagree with you here even though I see your points. Hell, the '98 Bulls even had a shorter three-point line than the '93 Bulls but Pippen and Jordan were still better much shooters at that point. I grant you (no pun intended) that Grant was the best low-post scorer and the '93 Bulls were just SICK when it came to three-point shooting because of B.J. Armstrong and John Paxson. So they had that extra dimensions. And, yeah, Jordan wasn't as good of an overall defensive player anymore. But I'd say Pippen was just about as good on the defensive end. He and Harper would guard the two best opposing team's perimeter scorers... and Jordan was allowed to somewhat rest on defense. That ended up being pretty lethal at the end of games for the Bulls.
 

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The 1992 Portland Trail Blazers were the best team they faced.

They were definitely the best offensive team they ever faced. And I have no doubt that team was better than the 1993 Suns.
 

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Oddly enough, it was Paxson's winning 3 against the Suns in the Finals. The Bulls were about out of gas in that series, that shot sealed another title.
 

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I don't remember if it was the Playoffs or the Heats opening game but when Nocioni score 7 points in like 11 seconds, that was amazing. Probably 2nd fav post MJ
 

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Anyways, my favorite moment(s) was Rodman during the whole '96 Finals.

No disrespect to the greatest basketball player of all time/greatest competitor of all time Michael Jordan but to this day, I still think Rodman should have been the Finals MVP that year.
 

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