First All-Star ballot returns are in

[bleacherbum54]

Roy Hibbert better make the team if he keeps playing how he is playing. He has been fantastic this year 2nd best C in the east so far.

If Noah or anyone makes it over Hibbert(if he keeps playing the way he is) that would be a shame

especially Noah he has been awful this year.


Hibbert injured Horford by blocking him I feel bad for Horford but Hibbert gaining 15lbs of muscles this off season made him a much better player.

 

[FirstTimer]

Statistically, Deng is having a down year. In the games, however, it's easy to note how important Deng is to the team.

Very true. I mean I think it's important to note that the stats that he is putting up in this down year aren't being compiled in these games..


WHUT?1!

He should be a #3 option on O

Well if that doesn't scream All star I don't know what does.

LOL.

Deng should be #5 in the East among forward ahead of guys who are true #1 and #2's!...............But he should be the #3 player on the Bulls.

Ryan Anderson is playing well, but he has even less of a name than Deng and has shown nothing before this season.

This is an All Star game. Anderson is better than Deng. He should go. Easily. it's not the HOF. Who cares what Anderson showed before this season?

Bargs is laughable, especially on D.

Bargs is having a far better year. So it's not laughable. You saying Deng should be the #5 forward in the East is laughable.

Pierce and Garnett, especially Pierce, have shown noticeable declines. They're only getting votes because of their name recognition.

Why do you think Deng has? Name. That's it. Dude doesn't deserve it this year. he's not the 5thbest forward in the East generally speaking. Especially this year.

. Chandler is hype imo,

Chanlder is 1. A better player than Noah. and 2. Having a better season.

 

[FirstTimer]

Bargs should be ahead of Noah if he's alisted center on the ballot as well. Can't recall what he's on as.

 

[fade]

#3 Offensive weapon doesnt = #3 best player...

You're only taking into account their stats on O. Boston has a shitton more legit O options than Chicago. Your argument is comparable to the arguments against DRose for MVP. People said he shouldnt get it because he had to score in volume, because he didn't have many offensive weapons.

Additionally, Deng is asked to do so much more than Garnett, Bargs, Granger, or Pierce at all times. His stats have taken a toll as a result of high minutes so early in the season. Even more, Chicago hurts Deng's offensive production because of their lack of offensive creators. We have Rose as a good shot-creator and Deng is an average shot-creater at best. Garnett, Pierce, and Granger have far more spaced floors considering the line-ups. With all this, it's expected that Deng will have worse O stats. Deng, however, has a significantly higher value to the team than most of those you suggest above him.

Voters don't value defense or value, that's why I expect the Coaches to vote Deng up.

I disagree than Chandler is (overall) a better player, but I accept him over Noah (especially this season).

 

[clonetrooper264]

Bargs should be ahead of Noah if he's alisted center on the ballot as well. Can't recall what he's on as.

He's listed as a forward.

Also, although I agree with you that Anderson is having a much better season than Deng is at this point in the season (all what...12 games?), I don't think he's a better overall player than Deng.

 

[FirstTimer]

He's listed as a forward.

Also, although I agree with you that Anderson is having a much better season than Deng is at this point in the season (all what...12 games?), I don't think he's a better overall player than Deng.

ok?

 

[clonetrooper264]

ok?

Just saying. Your statement earlier made it seem like you were saying that Anderson was just flat out better than Deng.

 

[FirstTimer]

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Boston has a shitton more legit O options than Chicago. Your argument is comparable to the arguments against DRose for MVP. People said he shouldnt get it because he had to score in volume, because he didn't have many offensive weapons.

No it's not.

Pierce and Garnett are having down seasons.

Stats, visual evidence all point to that,.

Additionally, Deng is asked to do so much more than Garnett, Bargs, Granger, or Pierce at all times.

No he's not. Quit being a homer.

His stats have taken a toll as a result of high minutes so early in the season. Even more, Chicago hurts Deng's offensive production because of their lack of offensive creators.

So Deng...is an All star or the 5th best forward in the east yet he can't creat one his own, big minutes hurt him, and his stats suck.

LULZ.

Voters don't value defense or value

Yeah because I know Ben Wallace was making All Star teams for his offense.

I disagree than Chandler is (overall) a better player,

You're wrong.

 

[FirstTimer]

Just saying. Your statement earlier made it seem like you were saying that Anderson was just flat out better than Deng.

No it didn't.

 

[clonetrooper264]

This is an All Star game. Anderson is better than Deng.

No it didn't.

Fooled me. Anderson is better than Deng does not mean Anderson is better than Deng. :bow:

 

[FirstTimer]

Fooled me. Anderson is better than Deng does not mean Anderson is better than Deng. :bow:

................. Look at the words before that and everything I've been saying about it being in the context of this season.

Please read before replying.

 

[clonetrooper264]

................. Look at the words before that and everything I've been saying about it being in the context of this season.

Please read before replying.

Never.


In all seriousness, I did read everything you said. Anderson having a better season than Deng thus far still does not make him better than Deng anymore than John Lucas scoring 60 points in some random charity game against Kevin Durant make him anywhere close to being good. Regardless, I've even agreed with your opinion about Anderson having the better season, so whatever.