First Take: Are Bulls Better Without Derrick Rose?

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I will wait until an actual basketball fan ask that question...then maybe I will answer.

Are you saying I'm not a real basketball fan?

Ouch, that hurt.

I already know the answer anyway.
Lebron James-Wade and Bosh. :dunno:
 
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better question is how far the bulls would make it in the playoffs without rose?
 

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Stupid to even discuss this.
 

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28-7 > 16-7

I declare this debate to be...
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No they are not...

You know that without Rose we beat the Heat twice and the Thunder beat us by 30 in 3 quarters and they rest their starters in the 4th. And that they beat the heat same way in their court and lost one game on the road in the last minute. Right? Also last year they got eliminated by the team that won the championship. And they could have won most of the games. But they didn't manage to keep 15 and 20 point lead in almost every game.

I don't understand why you overrate the Heat so much. They are an elite team of course. But among elite teams they are the 3rd or 4th best. I am more scared of the Lakers or the Spurs than the Heat. And of course I am more scared of the Thunder.

And one reason I am more scared is that we haven't played them so many times. It has become a routine for us to beat the Heat so many times we have played against them. We can react in every move they do in the court. That's why we can beat them without key players.
 
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You know that without Rose we beat the Heat twice and the Thunder beat us by 30 in 3 quarters and they rest their starters in the 4th. And that they beat the heat same way in their court and lost one game on the road in the last minute. Right? Also last year they got eliminated by the team that won the championship. And they could have won most of the games. But they didn't manage to keep 15 and 20 point lead in almost every game.

I don't understand why you overrate the Heat so much. They are an elite team of course. But among elite teams they are the 3rd or 4th best. I am more scared of the Lakers or the Spurs than the Heat. And of course I am more scared of the Thunder.

And one reason I am more scared is that we haven't played them so many times. It has become a routine for us to beat the Heat so many times we have played against them. We can react in every move they do in the court. That's why we can beat them without key players.

The Thunder are "way better" than the Heat, but people like yourself trip when I say they are better than the Bulls? I didn't agree or disagree with the Thunder being better than the Heat, but they are not a much better team.

You gave me problems for thinking the Thunder were a better team than the Bulls...so you must think the Bulls are "way better" than the team that beat them in the playoffs last year? Is that the case or no?
 

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Nope they are not better without him.
If this team were better without him they could win a championship without him.
 

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The Thunder are "way better" than the Heat, but people like yourself trip when I say they are better than the Bulls? I didn't agree or disagree with the Thunder being better than the Heat, but they are not a much better team.

You gave me problems for thinking the Thunder were a better team than the Bulls...so you must think the Bulls are "way better" than the team that beat them in the playoffs last year? Is that the case or no?

Is the word way your problem? You can erase it if you want. The thunder is a better team that the heat.

And yes the Bulls are a better team than the team that beat them in the playoffs last year. And the only team that beat them badly this year is the Thunder.
 
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They aren't better without him in a 7-Game series but in the regular season, there's something to be said how well they've played without him.

Your best player goes 1-68 and scores 2 whole points and the Bulls STILL beat the Heat when their big 3 played well?

It should make every Bulls fan feel VERY good about our chances this year - but since they've been so good without him this season, he doesn't deserve a SNIFF at the MVP this year.
 

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They are not better without him when he's healthy. We have stepped it up without him for sure. What will really take us to the next level is if everyone can take what they've done without Rose and apply it to playing with Rose. They won't have quite as many shots, but if Rose doesn't have it going, we know we can still score and play alright without him. Hopefully this stretch has improved everyone's individual confidence and will translate to a better offense when Rose gets going again.
 

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Is the word way your problem? You can erase it if you want. The thunder is a better team that the heat.

And yes the Bulls are a better team than the team that beat them in the playoffs last year. And the only team that beat them badly this year is the Thunder.

Don't forget the Nuggets..
 

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i wonder who still thinks this
 

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Isss this a new holiday?
"Megatrons Classic Threads Day"? :dunno:

Gee whiz, I wish I could bump my greatest classic threads, but there all locked.....

When I have time, ill go back and find my old posts from last summer.
There are numerous posts of mine where I express my fear of Rose getting seriously injured and why.
When I think back to my thoughts last summer, there quite erie....I mention numerous times how Rose needs another go to guy that's star material so he don't overwork himself doing too much too often too hard or else he's going to get hurt bad......And I mentioned how I cringe everytime Rose over-aggressively goes to the basket as if somthing bad is going to happen......Its like I seen this coming......
 
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You know that without Rose we beat the Heat twice and the Thunder beat us by 30 in 3 quarters and they rest their starters in the 4th. And that they beat the heat same way in their court and lost one game on the road in the last minute. Right? Also last year they got eliminated by the team that won the championship. And they could have won most of the games. But they didn't manage to keep 15 and 20 point lead in almost every game.

I don't understand why you overrate the Heat so much. They are an elite team of course. But among elite teams they are the 3rd or 4th best. I am more scared of the Lakers or the Spurs than the Heat. And of course I am more scared of the Thunder.

All kinds of craziness in this post...I hope nobody else talks about how the Bulls will beat a team because they beat them in the regular season again...you would think people would learn that lesson after watching what the Bulls have done now for two years straight.
 

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