Florio: Bears' offseason moves could be 'step one toward moving on from Justin Fields'

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(670 The Score) Though Bears second-year quarterback Justin Fields wasn't drafted by the current front office, there's been little to no public indication that new general manager Ryan Poles and the rest of his regime are less optimistic about Fields' future than former lead executive Ryan Pace was.

At the NFL Combine in late February and early March, Poles went on record to discuss the "high ceiling" that Fields had and how one of the Bears' primary goals was to put him in the best position to succeed. Still, because Fields wasn't drafted by Poles, there has been the occasional rumor -- if you could even call it a rumor -- that this front office may not be quite as bullish on Fields as the last. So is there any truth to that? Speaking on the Dan Bernstein Show on 670 The Score on Wednesday, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk speculated that some of Poles' moves may point to "a hidden message."

"There's a fine line between deliberately and strategically taking a step back and tanking," Florio said. "There's a fine line between those two things. But it feels like the Bears are deliberately taking a step back. And the problem is, usually teams do that when they don't have a quarterback they believe in, because part of the setup is, 'We will be so bad, we end up with a quarterback who becomes our franchise foundation.' Maybe that's the hidden message here, that the new regime doesn't believe in Justin Fields. Because if they did, would they be tearing everything else down? Or would they be trying to build everything else up? Because what happens is if the team stinks, Justin Fields is going to have a rough year, and fans will be like, 'Well, we wasted a couple first-round picks on him, on to the next one.' So, maybe if there's truth to the idea -- and it sure looks like it -- that they're deliberately tearing everything down, it could be that this is just step one toward moving on from Justin Fields at the appropriate time, which could be as soon as next year, if they would trade him to someone else and then begin their search for whoever the next franchise quarterback is going to be
 
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I don't see them anywhere close to giving up on Fields. If they wanted to give up on him, his trade value would never be higher than it is right now. They would just pull the plug, and I don't see that happening.

With that being said, the reason this article was even able to pull these threads together is because they aren't doing much to support Fields' development. Modern development is about developing strengths and putting people in places to succeed. That isn't this year. There are reasons for that, but Fields' development appears to be a risk Poles is willing to take.
 

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You would be foolish to think the Bears have already decided to move on from Fields, and equally foolish if you think they aren't preparing to if he doesn't work out.
 

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(670 The Score) Though Bears second-year quarterback Justin Fields wasn't drafted by the current front office, there's been little to no public indication that new general manager Ryan Poles and the rest of his regime are less optimistic about Fields' future than former lead executive Ryan Pace was.

At the NFL Combine in late February and early March, Poles went on record to discuss the "high ceiling" that Fields had and how one of the Bears' primary goals was to put him in the best position to succeed. Still, because Fields wasn't drafted by Poles, there has been the occasional rumor -- if you could even call it a rumor -- that this front office may not be quite as bullish on Fields as the last. So is there any truth to that? Speaking on the Dan Bernstein Show on 670 The Score on Wednesday, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk speculated that some of Poles' moves may point to "a hidden message."

"There's a fine line between deliberately and strategically taking a step back and tanking," Florio said. "There's a fine line between those two things. But it feels like the Bears are deliberately taking a step back. And the problem is, usually teams do that when they don't have a quarterback they believe in, because part of the setup is, 'We will be so bad, we end up with a quarterback who becomes our franchise foundation.' Maybe that's the hidden message here, that the new regime doesn't believe in Justin Fields. Because if they did, would they be tearing everything else down? Or would they be trying to build everything else up? Because what happens is if the team stinks, Justin Fields is going to have a rough year, and fans will be like, 'Well, we wasted a couple first-round picks on him, on to the next one.' So, maybe if there's truth to the idea -- and it sure looks like it -- that they're deliberately tearing everything down, it could be that this is just step one toward moving on from Justin Fields at the appropriate time, which could be as soon as next year, if they would trade him to someone else and then begin their search for whoever the next franchise quarterback is going to be

This is so weak and such a stretch. Poles inherited a dire cap situation and one of the oldest rosters in the league and very little draft capital to change things.

There was and still is, this year, anyway, very little wiggle room to work with.

I’m impressed with the moves he’s made. It’s ballzy but definitely no indication he is doubting the potential everyone with an inkling of perspective sees in Fields.
 

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I could be wrong, but Fields may be surrounded by an even lesser cast than Orton as a rookie. in case anyone was wondering how dire the 2021 Bears situation was. for being backed very much into a corner, I think what Poles has achieved so far is borderline miraculous.
 

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Florio is now the whoriest media whore of the lot as of now.

Clickbait sensationalism at it's worst. Sadly it'll surely get the chatty cathys yapping and disrespecting Fields and arguing for no reason.
 

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I heard the jags are trying to move on from lawrence also.

Heard they think jimmy G is the real answer.
 

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(670 The Score) Though Bears second-year quarterback Justin Fields wasn't drafted by the current front office, there's been little to no public indication that new general manager Ryan Poles and the rest of his regime are less optimistic about Fields' future than former lead executive Ryan Pace was.

At the NFL Combine in late February and early March, Poles went on record to discuss the "high ceiling" that Fields had and how one of the Bears' primary goals was to put him in the best position to succeed. Still, because Fields wasn't drafted by Poles, there has been the occasional rumor -- if you could even call it a rumor -- that this front office may not be quite as bullish on Fields as the last. So is there any truth to that? Speaking on the Dan Bernstein Show on 670 The Score on Wednesday, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk speculated that some of Poles' moves may point to "a hidden message."

"There's a fine line between deliberately and strategically taking a step back and tanking," Florio said. "There's a fine line between those two things. But it feels like the Bears are deliberately taking a step back. And the problem is, usually teams do that when they don't have a quarterback they believe in, because part of the setup is, 'We will be so bad, we end up with a quarterback who becomes our franchise foundation.' Maybe that's the hidden message here, that the new regime doesn't believe in Justin Fields. Because if they did, would they be tearing everything else down? Or would they be trying to build everything else up? Because what happens is if the team stinks, Justin Fields is going to have a rough year, and fans will be like, 'Well, we wasted a couple first-round picks on him, on to the next one.' So, maybe if there's truth to the idea -- and it sure looks like it -- that they're deliberately tearing everything down, it could be that this is just step one toward moving on from Justin Fields at the appropriate time, which could be as soon as next year, if they would trade him to someone else and then begin their search for whoever the next franchise quarterback is going to be
**** Mike Floro and literally his entire enterprise he is literally a hack job lawyer whomst probably was a ****ty lawyer anyways and he is also a midget in real life I saw him at the airport and he's literally not a actural little person but he is little and his butt sticks out like a little person's butt sticks out. He is a tiny little ignoramus.
 

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I could be wrong, but Fields may be surrounded by an even lesser cast than Orton as a rookie. in case anyone was wondering how dire the 2021 Bears situation was. for being backed very much into a corner, I think what Poles has achieved so far is borderline miraculous.
I think the only saving grace for Josh Allen in year 2 was the HC was in his 2nd year. He was pretty low on talent on the offensive side of the ball.

The OL is what bugs me, but it did last year too
 

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I'll say again that this is all nonsense, but one small thing to ponder.

How does Ryan "resilience" Poles view the whole transfer with Fields leaving instead of beating out Jake Fromm? Is that resilience that he overcame that bad situation? Or did he just run away and when he was hand picked for an offense with multiple first round talents, he finally succeed.

Hopefully either way, that's not a huge part of the evaluation.
If you think that the reason Justin fields left Georgia was because he didn’t wanna compete with Jake fucking fromm, then you’re highly delusional
 

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I think what Poles has achieved so far is borderline miraculous.
Cutting a bunch of players and trading Mack for a 2nd rounder are miracles?

If he finds a very good receiver in the 2nd round or manages to trade Foles for anything.. that would get my attention.
 

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(670 The Score) Though Bears second-year quarterback Justin Fields wasn't drafted by the current front office, there's been little to no public indication that new general manager Ryan Poles and the rest of his regime are less optimistic about Fields' future than former lead executive Ryan Pace was.

At the NFL Combine in late February and early March, Poles went on record to discuss the "high ceiling" that Fields had and how one of the Bears' primary goals was to put him in the best position to succeed. Still, because Fields wasn't drafted by Poles, there has been the occasional rumor -- if you could even call it a rumor -- that this front office may not be quite as bullish on Fields as the last. So is there any truth to that? Speaking on the Dan Bernstein Show on 670 The Score on Wednesday, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk speculated that some of Poles' moves may point to "a hidden message."

"There's a fine line between deliberately and strategically taking a step back and tanking," Florio said. "There's a fine line between those two things. But it feels like the Bears are deliberately taking a step back. And the problem is, usually teams do that when they don't have a quarterback they believe in, because part of the setup is, 'We will be so bad, we end up with a quarterback who becomes our franchise foundation.' Maybe that's the hidden message here, that the new regime doesn't believe in Justin Fields. Because if they did, would they be tearing everything else down? Or would they be trying to build everything else up? Because what happens is if the team stinks, Justin Fields is going to have a rough year, and fans will be like, 'Well, we wasted a couple first-round picks on him, on to the next one.' So, maybe if there's truth to the idea -- and it sure looks like it -- that they're deliberately tearing everything down, it could be that this is just step one toward moving on from Justin Fields at the appropriate time, which could be as soon as next year, if they would trade him to someone else and then begin their search for whoever the next franchise quarterback is going to be
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Justin Fields was so awful his rookie year that I doubt the Bears would get much more than a second for him. The pro comparison right now, at this stage in their respective careers, is Josh Rosen. Rosen fetched a late second and a fifth, I bet Fields would command a little bit more but not by much.

At that price its better just to see what you have in Fields for a season. The Bears have no other viable alternatives and few intentions of being competitive this year and you have to start somebody for seventeen games. I think we are all pretty sure what Trevor Semien is and isn't as an NFL player.

I do wonder what happens if Malik Willis, Desmond Ridder or Kenny Pickett shocks everyone and falls into the second round. It has a miniscule chance of happening, but if it does it presents a pretty huge opportunity for the Bears to get out ahead of a potential 2023 draft need.
 

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I've heard this year's QB class stinks but okay.
 

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Justin Fields was so awful his rookie year that I doubt the Bears would get much more than a second for him. The pro comparison right now, at this stage in their respective careers, is Josh Rosen. Rosen fetched a late second and a fifth, I bet Fields would command a little bit more but not by much.

At that price its better just to see what you have in Fields for a season. The Bears have no other viable alternatives and few intentions of being competitive this year and you have to start somebody for seventeen games. I think we are all pretty sure what Trevor Semien is and isn't as an NFL player.

I do wonder what happens if Malik Willis, Desmond Ridder or Kenny Pickett shocks everyone and falls into the second round. It has a miniscule chance of happening, but if it does it presents a pretty huge opportunity for the Bears to get out ahead of a potential 2023 draft need.
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