Boobaby1
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Well at least someone who dissents with me can be an intellectual about this.
back to the peaceful discussion....
You are right, I am not trying to start an uproar. SilenceS and others know when I am doing that. In fact I will do that next week by bumping an old thread.
I feel you and others severely over value the Cubs players and factually it seems major league baseball agrees with me by not giving up the quality the Cubs want.
You are right that I don't like the Cubs. Well, they are my 30th favorite team pending expansion
I do think the AL is the better league and I think IL play has shown that, but it is also cyclical.
I hear ya about hating the trade, but I think TOR fans would as well if it were those two guys for Shark. I know if I had those pitchers for a guy like Shark (see, I am avoiding the bias) I would be upset.
If I may chime in, I think that is a starting place by GM's. They want to pump up what they have, but they also don't want to give in to getting a potential TOR pitcher when they would be trading away at least a proven #3 to #4 pitcher. That's why they ask for two, or in the case with the Braves, asked for Heyward. The Cubs want pieces moving forward, and Shark on the team or off the team could be just that.
Pitching is at a premium these days, especially when you would be giving up a guy that has proven himself to be durable at the ML level. The asking price should be high, and GM's make these moves all of the time. Rarely does it work out for both teams and someone is generally always on the short end.
Case in point, albeit sample size, but why would you trade a 22 year old lefty in Tyler Skaggs, for a below average, power hitting 28 year old defensive liability in Mark Trumbo? The D-Backs stood a better chance with pitching, and could have supplemented Trumbo's spot via free agency in time.
Like I said, GM's make moves like this all of the time, and you can bet your ass that if Shark goes, the return will be big as far as potential. I am not overvaluing Shark in any way, but I know by history what Theo will give or get via a trade involving good players. Check out his Masterson-V-Mart, H-Ram-Beckett, Garza package, and on a lesser note, the Feldman deal.
And if the roles are reversed, he knows he will have to give up a substantial amount of talented prospect(s) to acquire someone proven.