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Always knew he was a half wit but this meatball turn of his "der we gotza sign da playerz! Wut r we doin?!" is pretty funny and revealing.
 

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The Bears, thankfully, don't have a ton of holes. For all the handwringing over Bell, it's not as though the Bears RB is bereft of talent. The Bears need to slot in players at EDGE, S, and CB, and K. An OL addition would be nice too. At this point, with the Bears cap position and the moves that need to be made it's more about smoothing the edges than bringing in massive difference makers, imo. The Bears can work the edges of the market and let it come to them during the draft, over the summer, and during camp. Guys become available. We have money. Let's see what happens.

Pace also needs to take into account the future contracts--Jackson(big big money), Whitehair, and Floyd.

I'd prefer if the Bears weren't in salary cap hell like the Cowboys and Saints were just a few years ago.
 

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The article also said that year 3 might have guaranteed money as well, so obviously the article is contradictory in itself. It also doesn't even have the yearly base amounts. For the fourth time, please provide link that shows the structure of the Steelers offer. You said you had it. Please provide. Thanks in advance.

Let's review the exchange after I posted the article.

I would figure that whatever base salary and bonuses were included in the first year of Pittsburgh's offer would have been "de facto guaranteed" even if they weren't guaranteed by definition, because the Steelers wouldn't be able to offload Bell that quickly (even if he was 260 lbs). I guess he "won on principle", but he lost a year of his prime career-wise, he didn't earn any additional dollars, and he took a huge gamble by turning down an existing offer and sitting out a year.

I don't think Bell's "principle victory" will be a new trend in players who are franchised. He got some horrible advice from his agent.

For the third time, please provide link that shows the structure of the Steelers offer. Otherwise, how are you figuring anything if you don't have the structure. You are blindly speculating.

The guarantees were over the first two years and almost certainly included guaranteeing his base salaries those first 2 years as it certainly would not have been all SB. So they are likely already in the 33 million.

This is what I said. I did not claim I had the structure of the deal. I said what the article said which is that the guarantees were over the first 2 years and thus IMO almost certainly included guaranteeing the base salaries. When you inquired, I just pointed you back to the article.

And yes the article does point out there might be guarantees in year 3 which really does not support your argument at all. There are guarantees that are fully guaranteed at signing and others that are guaranteed on a certain date in a given year. So the guarantees in Year 3 may be the latter instead of the former.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/khalil-mack-14414/

You can see from the Mack example that 60 million was guaranteed at signing and the total guarantee is 90 million. So you have produced no evidence for how you figure anything about the first year salary. I posted what the article said and drew a logical conclusion that it must include the guarantee of the first year as that is the most logical conclusion based on the article.

Finally if you were to go through over the cap and look at recent contracts, they typically include the first year salary in the guarantees as that has become something of the norm in contracts as it was with Mack.

Hope this helps and feel free to provide your reasoning for why you figured that first year salary is not a part of the guarantee.
 

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Always knew he was a half wit but this meatball turn of his "der we gotza sign da playerz! Wut r we doin?!" is pretty funny and revealing.

He’s just bitching at this point. He doesn’t even know what players he wants us to sign


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Pace also needs to take into account the future contracts--Jackson(big big money), Whitehair, and Floyd.

I'd prefer if the Bears weren't in salary cap hell like the Cowboys and Saints were just a few years ago.

I didn't expect the Bears to make any massive moves this offseason. Who here did? The worst thing that happened, optics wise, was the Mack re-structure that got people all in a tizzy about Bell, etc. That didn't make sense for a lot of reasons so my expectations never changed. I expected some movement at kicker and in the defensive backfield and at depth positions on the OL and DL. I figured a Howard trade/move at some point too, but no mega deal and figured we'd address RB in the draft. So far it's been what I expected.
 

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Always knew he was a half wit but this meatball turn of his "der we gotza sign da playerz! Wut r we doin?!" is pretty funny and revealing.

He'd do anything for a "playoff ready offense."
 

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Your comment is/was Special person. We are "48 hours" into free agency...not even that. Our biggest addition last year was added in August. Stop being a dunce about this.

Our biggest addition last year was a trade. I am discussing free agency. Once again, if things change, I will revise my opinion. Not sure why this is hard to grasp. If you consider my making preliminary comments based on info I have to date and revising it as more info comes in Special person then good for you I guess.
 

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He'd do anything for a "playoff ready offense."

..at the same time as throwing a hissy fit over the Bears cheaply signing a player that helped the Patriots win a Super Bowl.
 

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I really don't know what people expected. The Bears are fine tuning not re-stringing...

There were issues on the team that needed fixing.... Kickoff, place kicking, and Mizzel come to mind. 2 of those have been addressed.

Really the biggest leap this team will make is at QB......they added a part time mismatch in Patterson to help, but ultimately this team is really going to get better thru Trubisky, not a big time free agent.
 

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..at the same time as throwing a hissy fit over the Bears cheaply signing a player that helped the Patriots win a Super Bowl.

He just might be CCS's Cake-eater
 

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The Bears signed complimentary players, not over the top starters.

As far as the track records go:

Patterson is a proven returner and complimentary asset on the field.

Skrine, while I don't like the pick, has a pretty well known track record. He has been in the league 8 years and while has some penalty issues is a known situational play maker.

Davis does not have a proven track record, but I don't believe the Bears are asking him to be anything else than a third back.


It sounds like you want them to go out and sign a starter. Well FA isn't over.

And I don't pine for comp picks like other do as long as the team gets better. I believe both Patterson and Davis make the Bears a better team. I am not sure about Skrine.

You are free to have that opinion. I disagree for reasons already noted and time will tell who is right. Don't know what you want me to say. I can't pretend that I like moves that I actually don't so to each his/her own.
 

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I am puzzled why so many people here seem to think we will carry six RBs next year.

Many people have discussed getting one even if we keep Howard. Others discuss signing and drafting, assuming we trade Howard.

I am not begging the Bears to keep Cunningham and Mizzell, but aren't they still on the team? Or are they gone?

I was thinking 4 RB's and i'm pretty sure both Cunningham and Mizzell are free agents but not 100 on that.
 

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Our biggest addition last year was a trade

No shit.

The team get better than just via FA.

What were you expectations going into this FA period?

Who did you want the Bears to sign?

Who do you want the Bears to sign as we sit here right now?

Answer or start getting your shit deleted...and yes, your stance is Special person.
 

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Live look in at Ryan Pace.

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Don’t be surprised if he stays down for the count. My guess is that he extends Whitehair and goes dumpster diving for backup OLB.
Then head off to the draft looking for S,RB,CB,K,OL depth. If a cap casualty in one of those positions turns into a deal to good to pass up, he will be ready.
 

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I was thinking 4 RB's and i'm pretty sure both Cunningham and Mizzell are free agents but not 100 on that.

At this point I'd guess:

Cohen, Drafted RB, Davis, Cunningham

Howard gets traded.
 

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I get that some people defend every Bears move but it is odd that people are shocked that with 28 million freed up or so, we have done nothing to move the needle significantly.

Isn't freeing up 28 million moving the needle significantly?
 

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Bears are going the anti-Rams approach.

When you’re a good young team with a QB on their rookie deal, you DON’T go get good players who might put you over the top. You take the SAME money and pay mediocre players AND let two pieces of your No. 1 defense walk. Brilliant!

It would be nice to keep everyone you want to keep, but it is not reality.

If last year, when we had the possibility of acquiring Mack, someone told you it would cost us Bryce Callahan or Adrian Amos a year down the road, would you have been against the trade? because today you seem to be.

It's easy to be a complaining fan. GM's have to deal with reality. The nickle position is quite possibly the least impactful on the D. But you're acting like it is QB. Amos is quite possibly the 11th best defender we had. You're acting like we lost Ronnie Lott.

Would I like to have kept Amos? Yes.
Do I think we have a very good chance of getting a safety who is comparable to Amos? Yes, we do. Let's not forget Amos was mediocre until the last year or so when a better safety was put in the lineup.
 

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Who do you want to sign? Who did you want to sign that we did not?

Or are you just verbally masturbating for the hell of it?

Present something or I start deleting posts.

Oops, we are now back to FT throwing his mod powers around again. I am expressing an opinion that others share. I already noted that with 28 million freed up and with moves that could be made in other years that we could have gotten Bell. Bell was doable.
 

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