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I understood your statement, but I can also learn what I don't want to be as a teacher/professor etc. It's hard not to learn something when your captive with a professor for a 16 week class.

Developing rubrics is fine, and I understand that's part of the job. Frankly, its a part of the job I look forward doing.

When that defines a teacher/professor, that instructor isn't effective IMO. Who I am as a teacher, a rubric or a name on the piece of paper, that's not the impact I want to leave behind on my students. I'm more interested in my students doing well outside of my classroom in the "real world" more so than giving them loads of grades on topics that they probably won't use in their careers.

I get the hoop jumping and it comes with any job, just saying sometimes it gets frustrating, but the light is there at the end of the tunnel, and my satisfaction in being a teacher will be greater because I care about the students' success in life, not about Shakespeare.
 

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I take it you've never heard of Race to the Top, or Common Core.
 

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Yes I have.
 

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Have you heard of Charlotte Danielson?
 

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Not until 5 seconds ago :lol:
 

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You'll notice if you look through her framework for teaching that really only Domain 2 deals with the things you're talking about, and at some point, no matter how great of a rapport you have with your students, principals are gong to want to see the assessment, the grading, the preparation, etc., etc.,....

I don't mean to discourage you, because I was once full of piss and vinegar like you seem to be. However, the game has changed - and (unfortunately) more principals are concerned with seeing data points rise than you being a mentor.
 

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You'll notice if you look through her framework for teaching that really only Domain 2 deals with the things you're talking about, and at some point, no matter how great of a rapport you have with your students, principals are gong to want to see the assessment, the grading, the preparation, etc., etc.,....

I don't mean to discourage you, because I was once full of piss and vinegar like you seem to be. However, the game has changed - and (unfortunately) more principals are concerned with seeing data points rise than you being a mentor.

Yeah, like I said I don't have a problem with grading, assessment or any of the rules, deadlines, goals etc. I just don't want that to define who I am if that makes sense.

But, yay for equal standards for different students.
 

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Common Core does not deal with equal standards for different students. I teach special education - do you honestly think my students are being taught the same way as AP/Honors students?
 

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Well, this explains your sustained ability at being a regular vetern poster here, you deal with all us "special" folks on a regular basis.
Ha! Some of my students would be able to give some of the posters in the Bears forum a run for their money - and that's not me being critical or making jokes of my students.
 

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