Future Cubs

[HeavyD]

The lineup should be
Sam Fuld LF
Starlin Castro SS
Tyler Colvin RF
Marlon Byrd CF
Aramis Ramirez 3B
Geovanny Soto Catcher
Micah Hoffpair 1B
Blake Dewitt 2B

Soriano Subs in against fastball pitchers maybe? He can also ride the bench like he should be. I'll take a youth movement please, lets get players in there who care and will give it 100%.

Thats a pretty decent lineup there if I do say so myself...Be nicer to have Jake Fox in there to, oh well.

 

[Jntg4]

The lineup should be
Sam Fuld LF
Starlin Castro SS
Tyler Colvin RF
Marlon Byrd CF
Aramis Ramirez 3B
Geovanny Soto Catcher
Micah Hoffpair 1B
Blake Dewitt 2B

Soriano Subs in against fastball pitchers maybe? He can also ride the bench like he should be. I'll take a youth movement please, lets get players in there who care and will give it 100%.

Thats a pretty decent lineup there if I do say so myself...Be nicer to have Jake Fox in there to, oh well.

NO, Fuld leading off and Hoffpauir being there, not a good combo. And you can't bench Soriano, and his average may be low, but .260s isn't that bad when you hit over 20 homers.

 

[Captain Obvious]

The lineup should be
Sam Fuld LF
Starlin Castro SS
Tyler Colvin RF
Marlon Byrd CF
Aramis Ramirez 3B
Geovanny Soto Catcher
Micah Hoffpair 1B
Blake Dewitt 2B

Soriano Subs in against fastball pitchers maybe? He can also ride the bench like he should be. I'll take a youth movement please, lets get players in there who care and will give it 100%.

Thats a pretty decent lineup there if I do say so myself...Be nicer to have Jake Fox in there to, oh well.

:rofl: You are funny, sir, you are funny.

 

[HeavyD]

:rofl: You are funny, sir, you are funny.

Perhaps my lineup order is off but those are the players we should have out there next year. Very fast first 2 in the lineup to play some small ball. followed by some big bats.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

wait is that lineup serious? Soriano on the bench? Fuld at leadoff?


lay down the pipe brah

 

[HeavyD]

wait is that lineup serious? Soriano on the bench? Fuld at leadoff?


lay down the pipe brah

Do you really think Soriano deserves to be playing? He is a joke, strikeout machine who is a biggest liability in the outfield of possibly any fielder in the NL?

If I have my way Soriano is released...pay his ass to not even be with the team.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

Do you really think Soriano deserves to be playing? He is a joke, strikeout machine who is a biggest liability in the outfield of possibly any fielder in the NL?

If I have my way Soriano is released...pay his ass to not even be with the team.

I agree with you to a large extent. He's a huge defensive liability, what with the prancing and hopping and the complete lack of effort out there. And I'd like to just cut our losses with him and release him, but it's just not possible. His contract is a joke, and we'd suffer by paying him not to play. I would definitely give him more days off though and sit his lazy ass on the bench.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

soriano can still bring in runs and hit HRs and we cant get rid of him...now if i did have my way i'd trade him for some young talent or younger big time player..but we cant do that...he isnt the greatest defender or anything like that but again he can still hit pretty well for power...again soriano can still rack up HRs and RBIs and has a good slugging pct.....if the Cubs were in the AL i'd suggest DH.....but lol@ benching Soriano..please....and you still havent addressed Fuld at leadoff.....

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

soriano can still bring in runs and hit HRs and we cant get rid of him...now if i did have my way i'd trade him for some young talent or younger big time player..but we cant do that...he isnt the greatest defender or anything like that but again he can still hit pretty well for power...again soriano can still rack up HRs and RBIs and has a good slugging pct.....if the Cubs were in the AL i'd suggest DH.....but lol@ benching Soriano..please....and you still havent addressed Fuld at leadoff.....

Fuld should hit like 7 or 8. I'd move Castro to leadoff to see what happens. Unfortunately, we just don't have a lead off hitter, right now.

 

[waldo7239117]

Fuld is not good. Period. He is a 4th OF and nothing else.

 

[JustinTCB]

Just for the record.

Soriano leads the Cubs in home runs and RBI (if you care about RBI)

Soriano is second on the team in doubles. He has the third highest wOBA (.358) of Cubs regular players, behind Byrd and Soto.

While I don't disagree that his defense is poor in general, UZR has him rated as the second best defender on the Cubs. His range and arm both have positive ratings, but naturally his Errors hurt him there. Like I said, I'm not saying he's a gold glover, but after a rough April he's been fine in left field.

Outside of 2009, when he was obviously injured, Soriano has been fine as a Cub. Is his contract way too much, yes, but he is absolutely a starting outfielder in the major leagues, and absolutely should be starting over Sam fucking Fuld.

 

[waldo7239117]

Just for the record.

Soriano leads the Cubs in home runs and RBI (if you care about RBI)

Soriano is second on the team in doubles. He has the third highest wOBA (.358) of Cubs regular players, behind Byrd and Soto.

While I don't disagree that his defense is poor in general, UZR has him rated as the second best defender on the Cubs. His range and arm both have positive ratings, but naturally his Errors hurt him there. Like I said, I'm not saying he's a gold glover, but after a rough April he's been fine in left field.

Outside of 2009, when he was obviously injured, Soriano has been fine as a Cub. Is his contract way too much, yes, but he is absolutely a starting outfielder in the major leagues, and absolutely should be starting over Sam fucking Fuld.

This all the way.

 

[Jntg4]

Just for the record.

Soriano leads the Cubs in home runs and RBI (if you care about RBI)

Soriano is second on the team in doubles. He has the third highest wOBA (.358) of Cubs regular players, behind Byrd and Soto.

While I don't disagree that his defense is poor in general, UZR has him rated as the second best defender on the Cubs. His range and arm both have positive ratings, but naturally his Errors hurt him there. Like I said, I'm not saying he's a gold glover, but after a rough April he's been fine in left field.

Outside of 2009, when he was obviously injured, Soriano has been fine as a Cub. Is his contract way too much, yes, but he is absolutely a starting outfielder in the major leagues, and absolutely should be starting over Sam fucking Fuld.

Basically what I was going to say before seeing you post.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Perhaps my lineup order is off but those are the players we should have out there next year. Very fast first 2 in the lineup to play some small ball. followed by some big bats.

That's one of the worst line ups in the history of Ever.

Do you really think Soriano deserves to be playing? He is a joke, strikeout machine who is a biggest liability in the outfield of possibly any fielder in the NL?

If I have my way Soriano is released...pay his ass to not even be with the team.

So Colvin should be released too?

I agree with you to a large extent. He's a huge defensive liability, what with the prancing and hopping and the complete lack of effort out there. And I'd like to just cut our losses with him and release him, but it's just not possible. His contract is a joke, and we'd suffer by paying him not to play. I would definitely give him more days off though and sit his lazy ass on the bench.

He has actually lived up to his contract thus far. As far as a huge defensive liability, please, please, please explain. He's one of the best LFers in baseball.

soriano can still bring in runs and hit HRs and we cant get rid of him...now if i did have my way i'd trade him for some young talent or younger big time player..but we cant do that...he isnt the greatest defender or anything like that but again he can still hit pretty well for power...again soriano can still rack up HRs and RBIs and has a good slugging pct.....if the Cubs were in the AL i'd suggest DH.....but lol@ benching Soriano..please....and you still havent addressed Fuld at leadoff.....

Why do you DH one of the best LFers in baseball?

Fuld is not good. Period. He is a 4th OF and nothing else.

Probably more like a 5th OFer.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Why do you DH one of the best LFers in baseball?

maybe its just me but i kind of like that idea....soriano is still very strong in the HR and RBI and slugging pct areas....he isnt quite the athlete he used to be offensively or defensively imo..... and i dont think soriano is a defensive liability he is decent on defense but he isnt the best

some of his defensive numbers arent very impressive.....especially fielding and errors

if the Cubs were in the Al who do you suggest as the DH?

 

[Jntg4]

He hasn't misplayed many balls lately. Just like a few days ago someone called D-Lee a double play machine. Please! Maybe in 2008, but I can't remember when the last time he even hit into a DP was.

 

[Captain Obvious]

maybe its just me but i kind of like that idea....soriano is still very strong in the HR and RBI and slugging pct areas....he isnt quite the athlete he used to be offensively or defensively imo..... and i dont think soriano is a defensive liability he is decent on defense but he isnt the best

some of his defensive numbers arent very impressive.....especially fielding and errors

if the Cubs were in the Al who do you suggest as the DH?

Colvin.

Errors are so overrated. Len says it all the time, if Player X gets to 10 more balls than Player Y, but makes 3 errors on those balls, who would you rather have? Player X. Soriano makes errors, but he has amazing range and a great arm.

He hasn't misplayed many balls lately. Just like a few days ago someone called D-Lee a double play machine. Please! Maybe in 2008, but I can't remember when the last time he even hit into a DP was.

Well he is on pace for the 2nd most GIDP's in his career.

 

[waldo7239117]

I think he's a 4th OF because of his defense. Late innings sub. I'm talking about Fuld.

 

[Jntg4]

@waldo: Thought you were talking about Colvin and I was like "WTF?"

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Colvin.

Errors are so overrated. Len says it all the time, if Player X gets to 10 more balls than Player Y, but makes 3 errors on those balls, who would you rather have? Player X. Soriano makes errors, but he has amazing range and a great arm.

True and i never said he wasnt a decent defender....and i dont like colvin at DH...primarily because i'd like to see him grow into becoming a top OFer or 1B(though i'd rather Colvin stick to the outfield)