GMC Hummer is BACC

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

I have not seen any weight ratings... really interested to see what the thing tips the scales at.

I am really hoping this sticks and EVs become more common.

Interesting anecdote about the challenges electric vehicles face in the market place below.


Back in the day, when I lived for wakeboarding, I was on a message board with a fellow who started an electric boat company.
from idea to fruition, he put it all out there step by step.
The small niche market of wakeboarding was the perfect venue for an electric vehicle- the desires of a rider went hand in hand with the attributes of an electric vehicle.
Riders want weight- the more the better. The heavier the boat, the more water it displaces. the more water it displaces, the larger the wake.
Conventional wake boats beat the shit out of their motors with high revs for long periods under heavy strain, and every surface and hatch was filled with water ballast systems to add more and more weight.
There were companies that sold lead weights covered in rubber for that purpose alone.
(I myself made many- bought lead shot from a gun shop, approached tire shops to purchase their old tire weights, melted them down on a grill in bread pans and coated them with rubberize-it)
Bottom line, weight was king. Finding enough to fulfill your needs was a challenge.

The heavy ass batteries and motor were an asset in that regard, and the torque heavy motors were exactly what was needed to push all that water.

Limited time frames on the charge was not a problem- You are always close to home, and most riders went for a couple hours for a stretch.
Bottom line, Electric boats were a perfect fit for the sport and a perfect solution to every challenge.

HOWEVER- it is a sport filled with rich snobs- higher end boats hit 6 figures well over a decade ago.
The majority of the enthusiasts...VAST majority... make Hawk look like a rational moderate.

The electric boat market was roundly rejected by enthusiasts. There are still models from the big companies being made, but it is fascinating to watch them fail.
In a sport where having the biggest, best, newest thing with all the bells and whistles, where a top of the line motor is considered beyond life span at 1000 hours of use, where you have to load up with literally thousands of pounds of water to enjoy, where you burn 5+ gallons of gas per hour, Electric boats are not hot simply because of perception. Way too green for their taste.

I'll share my experience with boat owners that echoes what you're saying.

Many moons ago, I was adrift in the job world, and got a tip from a buddy that the guy that ran the boat canvas and upholstery shop at the boatyard in town was looking for help. I went to check it out, because I have always been a big believer in seeking out a job where you learn a skill while getting paid. It's exactly what this job was. Being based in the marina, we did every kind of boat there was....small guys with fishing john boats and up. This particular marina had indoor storage, and also the largest capacity hoist for quite a ways around, and was close to Lake Michigan, so even though it was located in a lower middle class suburb, there were some really big, expensive boats with deep pocketed owners in there every fall and out of there every spring. My boss fucked up a gold mine: smart guy, talented with his hands, knew how to talk to people. He was also a drunk, a stoner, lazy and unfocused, had no idea about accounting and the money end of running a business, and his wiener got him in all kinds of unnecessary trouble which distracted him from work. He realized something and I saw it in practice: boat owners have shit tons of money that they want desperately to spend on their boats under one condition, you must give them something unique. In my experience the factory of even the largest boats was in the business of making boats; the factory curtains and covers were largely a bland, white, cloth backed vinyl with no frills. We made everything from scratch...bent custom stainless bows for canopies, made side curtains with custom zip out clear windows and screens....my boss had a lot of focus on the details, like little strap with a snap to hold up a rolled up side curtain, a storage bag for removed curtains that was made of matching material. We used high end materials available in a wide variety of cool colors. I watched guys hand over $15,000 - 20,000 (in 1990) without blinking an eye, because they were talking about showing it off at Burnham Harbor. The big boat community is absolutely rich snobs just looking to outspend the boat next to them and brag about it. I saw it in practice regularly.

 

[airtime143]

I'll share my experience with boat owners that echoes what you're saying.

Many moons ago, I was adrift in the job world, and got a tip from a buddy that the guy that ran the boat canvas and upholstery shop at the boatyard in town was looking for help. I went to check it out, because I have always been a big believer in seeking out a job where you learn a skill while getting paid. It's exactly what this job was. Being based in the marina, we did every kind of boat there was....small guys with fishing john boats and up. This particular marina had indoor storage, and also the largest capacity hoist for quite a ways around, and was close to Lake Michigan, so even though it was located in a lower middle class suburb, there were some really big, expensive boats with deep pocketed owners in there every fall and out of there every spring. My boss fucked up a gold mine: smart guy, talented with his hands, knew how to talk to people. He was also a drunk, a stoner, lazy and unfocused, had no idea about accounting and the money end of running a business, and his wiener got him in all kinds of unnecessary trouble which distracted him from work. He realized something and I saw it in practice: boat owners have shit tons of money that they want desperately to spend on their boats under one condition, you must give them something unique. In my experience the factory of even the largest boats was in the business of making boats; the factory curtains and covers were largely a bland, white, cloth backed vinyl with no frills. We made everything from scratch...bent custom stainless bows for canopies, made side curtains with custom zip out clear windows and screens....my boss had a lot of focus on the details, like little strap with a snap to hold up a rolled up side curtain, a storage bag for removed curtains that was made of matching material. We used high end materials available in a wide variety of cool colors. I watched guys hand over $15,000 - 20,000 (in 1990) without blinking an eye, because they were talking about showing it off at Burnham Harbor. The big boat community is absolutely rich snobs just looking to outspend the boat next to them and brag about it. I saw it in practice regularly.

Boat owners are absolute nuts.
Back in the day, in my little niche of the boat world, people were dropping thousands on submerged LED strings to light up under the swim deck... a tiny ass little 5'x3' area.
Re-doing seats immediately upon purchase so they had something better than everyone else.

The big one was thousands upon thousands of dollars in stereo equipment complete with tower speakers pointed back towards the rider that of course sounded like shit... but people had to have the cnc made billett cans to put them in, with custom machined clamps to hold them on the tower.

People regularly dropping 6 figures for what is at the end of the day, a single purpose machine that is absolutely AWFUL for pleasure cruising or relaxing.

It was always fun to watch one of the image conscious guys drop their boat in big water next to some real actual big money boats and watch their dicks shrink up inside their bodies.
I would guess it would hurt pretty bad if your whole image was tied up in the price of your 22' boat and you were the little water bug surrounded by 7 and 8 figure machines that are 4 times the length and have their own crew.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

It is probably just my boomer mind failing me, but I always have this weird fear of running out of battery power with an electric car. Like you cannot run out of gas in a regular vehicle. My neighbors did something interesting though, bought a Tesla, had a big ass solar system put into their back yard and then added a charging port right on the outside of their house to charge the thing. Free gas!

Also I think if it was just for local use I would be way more apt to use an EV than if I was traveling otr. Simply due to the lack of charging stations once you got out of a major city. I am sure this is something that is getting better and better, but it isn't like you can bop into your local caseys in the middle of podunk and charge your Tesla right now.

With a Tesla, you plug in your end destination and it routes a map for you with electric charging stations along the way. I'm sure they give you the fastest route but given the capabilities with those cars, I'm sure you can select a scenic route as well. Probably not a preferred method of travel for a wanderer, but you could make it work.

A family friend just got one and he was telling me that if you take a Tesla to 0%, then it's ruined forever which is pretty terrifying. I don't know if there is any truth to that or not and don't care to look it up lol. I'd really like to get an EV for my next vehicle and my hope with the announcement of this Hummer that means GM is close to rolling out more options. And that are more cost effective. A 100k Hummer doesn't do much for me.

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

With a Tesla, you plug in your end destination and it routes a map for you with electric charging stations along the way. I'm sure they give you the fastest route but given the capabilities with those cars, I'm sure you can select a scenic route as well. Probably not a preferred method of travel for a wanderer, but you could make it work.

A family friend just got one and he was telling me that if you take a Tesla to 0%, then it's ruined forever which is pretty terrifying. I don't know if there is any truth to that or not and don't care to look it up lol. I'd really like to get an EV for my next vehicle and my hope with the announcement of this Hummer that means GM is close to rolling out more options. And that are more cost effective. A 100k Hummer doesn't do much for me.

In general, batteries don't like to be run down to nothing. That said, I'd be surprised if Tesla didn't have a cutoff to stop you from running it so low it damaged itself.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

In general, batteries don't like to be run down to nothing. That said, I'd be surprised if Tesla didn't have a cutoff to stop you from running it so low it damaged itself.

Yeah, I agree. I'm talking out of my ass and just passing along hearsay

 

[ytsejam]

There. I fixed the thread.

 

[MDB111™]

This truck looks like game changer.

 

[ijustposthere]

Hate trucks. Will just stick with my Audi A8L View attachment 7773

Why do you store it with the dealer?

 

[dweebs19]

I saw the commercial for this truck on Twitter. It looks nice. Looks nicer than the Tesla truck

 

[Hawkeye OG]

I saw the commercial for this truck on Twitter. It looks nice. Looks nicer than the Tesla truck

The Tesla truck design still has me scratching my head. Being the first EV Truck, they had an opportunity to control that market, but I'm not sure people are going to go with that stupid ass design.

 

[MDB111™]

Why do you store it with the dealer?

He is a Audi sales man

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

Why do you store it with the dealer?

It's on lawaway....some fine sunny day in 2026, he's going to zip out of the dealership is his brand new 2020 R8.

 

[MDB111™]

It's on lawaway....some fine sunny day in 2026, he's going to zip out of the dealership is his brand new 2020 R8.

To be fair to dickhead, not many can afford a R8

 

[JimAKABlkhwks918]

To be fair to dickhead, not many can afford a R8

Ommy included...

 

[MDB111™]

Ommy included...

He lives in a tiny home in Elgin. He leases cars.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

He lives in a tiny home in Elgin. He leases cars.

 

[Burque]

To be fair to dickhead, not many can afford a R8

He can only afford to lease one.

dickhead.

 

[Burque]

THe hummer Trucklooks fucking hot. The open air concept is impressive. It is far to effing expensive though.

 

[Omeletpants]

He lives in a tiny home in Elgin. He leases cars.

Mine is an A8L, not an R8

 

[Omeletpants]

Ommy included...

This is mine, dumbshit