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Yeah but you're cool religious, not one of these hardcore born again puritan hypocrites.
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Yeah but you're cool religious, not one of these hardcore born again puritan hypocrites.
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How so? I can't think of any two things LESS like each other than sex and violence. One is about love, pleasure, enjoyment, the other is about pain, death and anger.
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Well to a degree there's also the "taboo" that has been placed on sex that affects everyone's mind to a degree. That same taboo hasn't been placed on violence or has been removed so generally it's been more accepted.
If you want something to rage about, sex scenes tend to be more about lust and selfish pleasure and enjoyment than actual love and such, just as much as scenes with people shooting each other are about anger and pain. If there was such a spectrum that included both things, they'd be on the two extremes. If straight up porn was being placed in movies, I doubt many people would have no issues with it.
This is not to save love, pleasure, and enjoyment are BAD. Obviously IRL you take sex over murder as one thing is clearly "morally worse" but both things can lead to different forms of sinful thought from a religious perspective.
At the end of the day though, violence doesn't get complained about as much as sex because people have sort of just accepted it. That doesn't make it necessarily more ok than sex to show on TV though, especially a show in which kids could be watching.
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That's because we haven't yet completely shaken off the last of the cobwebs of irrational puritanism.
No shit. Most religious people in this country vote for war, inequality, and State executions, while being mortified by equality, boobs on TV, and sex education.
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I ain't saying it's right, but it's not 100% the fault of religion either. Across the board you'll find that people are more ok with violence on TV than sex. Idk...maybe in your mind that's all religion's fault somehow. And maybe it is...who am I to say? I'm sure you can find plenty of people who vote for war and all that and don't like sex on TV who are more antireligion than you can imagine. I for one have very few Christians friends and acquaintances who were against gender equality. Perhaps that makes us 'cool' religious people.
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It's more puritanism than religion. Though I suppose you could say it is about religion at least indirectly, since religion is the source of puritan morality.
Not all religious people are puritan, but most puritans are religious.
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Well since puritanism is a religion, yes I would hope most puritans are religious. Puritans tend to be far more conservative than most others though, so it's definitely not something that you can directly extend to all religion, or even all Christians.
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I'm referring to puritan as a verb, not the actual religion of Puritanism. I'm talking about the puritanical mindset that still exists in the American ethos, with regards to how we're culturally moulded to view sex and violence, in contrast to Europe, for example, where nudity is far less taboo. The US is still much more religious than the rest of the developed world, and still has a far more puritanical attitude to sexuality, generally speaking.
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Fair enough. I'm not sure you can pin the origin of puritanism on religion then. Now that I think about it, at least within Christianity, violence is definitely regarded as overall worse than sex. There's much about sexual fidelity and immorality, but most people would probably agree with those even if they weren't religious. The only difference usually is premarital sex where virtually every non-religious person would say that it's ok vs the Christian who would disagree. But even then, it's not sex that's bad, it's the context. This puritanism you're talking about just treats all talk of sex as bad so there's a clear disconnect there (sex is bad vs sex in this context is bad), but I can see how an over-adherence of sorts to one led to the other. That then is more the fault of the interpreter than the original message.
But enough of these B&I ramblings...
I'm gonna try to watch an episode of this tonight and see how it is.
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Nah man, needs more violence. Blood and gore everywhere is the way to go. :elephant:
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