Greg Wyshynski on the Penalty Shot

[Shantz My Pants]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Variable" data-cid="197688" data-time="1369788857">

Misses the point, it was a penalty. A dangerous one. But they weren't going to call anything.

 

The NHL not suspending him afterwards proves nothing just because of their track record regarding decisions involving supplementary discipline and if it's necessary or not. They are horrible with it.</p></blockquote>


I don't disagree about them not calling anything, though IMO there was nothing to call (charging if anything).


They've been letting teams play. There needs to be more constancy and more calling it as they would in the regular season.

 

[Variable]

Charging, interference, blind side hit. I mean, he left his feet. It should be blatant. Any of those would fit. Pick one and call it. Don't make the other team have to do stupid shit to get the penalty called. That just creates more problems.</p>

 

[EspoForever]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Grimsonov" data-cid="197629" data-time="1369761051">


I thought it was weak given the circumstances. But ill happily take it any time!!

Did it fit the PS criteria? Sure. But I've seen waaaaaaaaay worse not even called a penalty, let alone a penalty shot.</p></blockquote>
I did not think it was weak at all. Frolik was in alone and was slashed in the wrists hard enough that he never got off a shot. Kerry Fraser agrees with me and also agrees with me that we were screwed out of a penalty shot in game 4:

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=424167

 

[EspoForever]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MassHavoc" data-cid="197668" data-time="1369775852">

I assume it was a different ref on the ice? To me it's exactly what TCD says about inconsistency. And it definately leads to not understanding what a penalty is and what isn't which makes it a lot harder to understand the games nuances and a lot harder for new fans to pick it up. My wife, who has watched hockey her whole life, was watching with me last night and said multiple times why wasn't that a penalty, and why was that called but the other one wasn't? She doesn't know hockey as well as a lot of fans, but she knows it well enough to be confused about the inconsistencies. Same can be said for basketball. Flops and hard fouls and inconsistencies, and we've seen how that game is slowly being ruined. NFL I would assume is next even though for the most part theirs are procedural and pretty cut and dry.</p></blockquote>
I see your point, in that "luck is simply the intersection of preparation, hard work and opportunity" but, "puck luck" to me includes hitting 5-6 posts and never having one bounce in, while your opponent's post shots are going in, having a legit goal called back, having numerous tap in rebounds end up just out of reach...it's not any one play to me but an accumulation of events that usually never last more than the length of a game, but in some circumstances longer. Then I start to see it as puck luck...to me it felt like we were on the ass end of that for games 3 and 4 and it swung back more toward the middle the last could games.


I fully understand that we have played sloppy as hell all playoff too, but I think for a couple games Lady Luck was crapping on us a bit.

 

[dlrob315]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="EspoForever" data-cid="197718" data-time="1369829105">


I see your point, in that "luck is simply the intersection of preparation, hard work and opportunity" but, "puck luck" to me includes hitting 5-6 posts and never having one bounce in, while your opponent's post shots are going in, having a legit goal called back, having numerous tap in rebounds end up just out of reach...it's not any one play to me but an accumulation of events that usually never last more than the length of a game, but in some circumstances longer. Then I start to see it as puck luck...to me it felt like we were on the ass end of that for games 3 and 4 and it swung back more toward the middle the last could games.


I fully understand that we have played sloppy as hell all playoff too, but I think for a couple games Lady Luck was crapping on us a bit.</p></blockquote>


This is why the series are set-up for 7 games and not 1 and done, the better team should prevail and even with all the obstacles, there are enough games to overcome them.


With more than one game; bad luck can turn to lady luck, inconsistent officiating becomes consistent officiating because teams adjust to what it is.


I have no complaints, it's all good once you understand what it is.

 

[EspoForever]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Ida B. Wells" data-cid="197721" data-time="1369832714">


This is why the series are set-up for 7 games and not 1 and done, the better team should prevail and even with all the obstacles, there are enough games to overcome them.

With more than one game; bad luck can turn to lady luck, inconsistent officiating becomes consistent officiating because teams adjust to what it is.

I have no complaints, it's all good once you understand what it is.</p></blockquote>Yup, long series should iron out such wrinkles.

I have seen time (in game) when our guys seem to have "checked out" once their frustration level hits a certain point...we have to learn not to give up...ever.

Also, we mailed in game 2...I am pretty certain the boys would love to have that to do over...but you can only hope they finally learned not to give any games away even in a long series.