Greinke Opts Out of Final 3 Years With Dodgers

[FrankieLyrical]

I've been hearing 5-years and $125M for Grienke. Imagine signing him and trading Castro/McKinney/prospect for Tyson Ross. That rotation would be bullish.

1) Grienke
2) Arrieta
3) Lester
4) Ross
5) Hendricks

I think CJ Edwards will be the 5 starter next year. At least I hope, the book is out on Hendricks.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

I've been hearing 5-years and $125M for Grienke. Imagine signing him and trading Castro/McKinney/prospect for Tyson Ross. That rotation would be bullish.

1) Grienke
2) Arrieta
3) Lester
4) Ross
5) Hendricks

Even with his age that would be a bargain for Greinke. Price will set the market. If he gets the 7 years $230 million then some are talking about you'd have to think Greinke would get at least 6/$180. Then again with all the pitching available maybe no one is interested in topping that Scherzer money. I still hear that Samardzija could get 5 year/$100 million, hard to see how Greinke only gets $25 million more over the same term. The market is going to be interesting.

 

[Postman]

Greinke will probably stay with the Dodgers, but if he doesn't he'll command top $$$. His regular season numbers this year were 19-3, 1.66 era, 0.844 WHIP. And he's the only pitcher to beat the Mets in the post-season to this point.

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

Even with his age that would be a bargain for Greinke. Price will set the market. If he gets the 7 years $230 million then some are talking about you'd have to think Greinke would get at least 6/$180. Then again with all the pitching available maybe no one is interested in topping that Scherzer money. I still hear that Samardzija could get 5 year/$100 million, hard to see how Greinke only gets $25 million more over the same term. The market is going to be interesting.

No way we'll pay $230M for Price or $180M for Greinke. I'd be furious if we did that. Five years from now we'd turn into the Phillies. And I would absolutely not pay Samardja $100M -- he's a 4th starter at this point. The guy got shelled all year long.

I think it's time to focus on trades and acquire Tyson Ross. If we have to give up some guys, so be it. It'll hurt far less than having to pay Price $33M per year when he's giving us a .474 ERA in 5 years.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

No way we'll pay $230M for Price or $180M for Greinke. I'd be furious if we did that. Five years from now we'd turn into the Phillies. And I would absolutely not pay Samardja $100M -- he's a 4th starter at this point. The guy got shelled all year long.

I think it's time to focus on trades and acquire Tyson Ross. If we have to give up some guys, so be it. It'll hurt far less than having to pay Price $33M per year when he's giving us a .474 ERA in 5 years.

I think Samardzija is a solid number 3, especially if he was paired with Bosio again. A deeper look at some of his games this year indicate pitch selection problems which led to command issues. If he would take 5 years/$85million he'd be a good signing. Then go out and get Ross, Carrasco or Teheran or someone of that ilk. Then you have a rotation.

 

[brett05]

I think Samardzija is a solid number 3, especially if he was paired with Bosio again. A deeper look at some of his games this year indicate pitch selection problems which led to command issues. If he would take 5 years/$85million he'd be a good signing. Then go out and get Ross, Carrasco or Teheran or someone of that ilk. Then you have a rotation.

The issue with Jeff was he refused to look at video until his last few starts. He just had the wrong attitude to his pitching and refused to listen to coaching. I think there is a better than 50% that Jeff learned that he needs to rely on the ones getting a check for coaching and is open to teaching when things go wrong.

I don't see Jeff as a $100 million guy but I think he'd be really solid again in the NL. It hurts some because if Jef was anywhere remotely close to the pitcher he was advertised to be prior to the White Sox trade, the season is completely different for the White Sox.

 

[CSF77]

You know Grinke he was going to do that

 

[CSF77]

Balsley move for the off-season. Trade Soler and Baez for Harvey. Sign Hawerd for RF. Move Bryant to CF and lead off with LaStella at 3B

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

I think Samardzija is a solid number 3, especially if he was paired with Bosio again. A deeper look at some of his games this year indicate pitch selection problems which led to command issues. If he would take 5 years/$85million he'd be a good signing. Then go out and get Ross, Carrasco or Teheran or someone of that ilk. Then you have a rotation.

If we believe Teheran's 2015 season was an aberration, he might be had for a reasonable price. He had good stuff in 2013 and 2014 but went over 4.00ERA this year. Might be a good time to buy-in on him if we think he's fixable.

I love Ross, even though he'll have the highest price. Carrasco would be my third choice of the three, I think. The key to the Ross deal is how much they'll want. But we're going to have to part with talent to get some young studs.

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

Balsley move for the off-season. Trade Soler and Baez for Harvey. Sign Hawerd for RF. Move Bryant to CF and lead off with LaStella at 3B

Mets aren't trading any of their big guns.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Mets aren't trading any of their big guns.

Pretty sure they'll trade Harvey, if not over the winter certainly by the deadline if Wheeler looks like he's coming back. That situation rubbed the FO the wrong way. They handled it for now but that relationship has soured. I'm not sure the Cubs want another Boras represented pitcher though.

 

[CSF77]

Wheeler, Matz, DeGrom, Thor, Niese all slated next year. Harvey is a trade chip for them.

ML service: 2.072 so he should be coming up on arb1 next year. So they would be buying 3 years of control. I don't think anyone will argue against it.

The fact is the Cubs need to balance the line up. In other words add more contact types. Thus trading for a cheap TOR with control in Harvey. Then spending on Hayward in FA to replace Soler. It would be a major upgrade in RF. After that move Bryant to CF and LaStella to 3B. Now another option would be Castro to convert to CF But that is sketchy at best. Going by what we know Bryant and LaStella both can man those positions while providing flexibility if needed.

I'm seeing a line up of LaStella, Heyward, Bryant, Rizzo, Schwarber, Castro, Montero, Russell next year. It would be more stacked to the left side but all of the LH hitters are pretty proven vs LH pitching so not a major concern. If anything they could sign a lead off type to cover CF and move Bryant to 3B on those days.

It has been pretty much assumed that the Mets will end up losing Murphey and Cespedes this year and adding Baez and Soler would give them what they need the most going into next year. Payroll flexibility to be able to retain their rotation long term.

 

[CSF77]

Honestly they could use 2 SP next year. Hammel has blown after his injury. Not the same guy. Down 4-0 in the 1st with the post season on the line. Then Hendricks. Not even trusted enough to get past the 5th.

This is a glaring need next year. To the point that this team can not progress forward with out addressing it.

 

[JZsportsfan]

Mets won't trade a pitcher to the Cubs

I think the Cubs would be best served in shipping out Baez, Almora, Vogelbach, Johnson in a deal to add a TOR arm, or go after one via FA, and then use those trade pieces to get an everyday OF