Guard minutes against Boston

[Spunky Porkstacker]

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I don't know about you guys, but after the 3rd line my nose starts bleeding...</p>
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Better have a talk with your guy aboot that. :blink:</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Never heard that statement.


What does Bollig not do on a PK that others do?

 

[PatrickSharpRules]

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Not putting the best availaible players on a struggling PK? Yeah I would say that's hurting the team, especailly seeing as how it was constantly echoed around here last season that we'd rather have a really good PK over a really good PP (not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with that). Well now that the tables are turned, has that statement conveniently been forgotten?</p>
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With our best players exhausted from a Cup winning season, and prepping for another title run I am would not be surprised if Q is trying to test our low end forwards now. If they prove they can be effective in a PK and defensive situation, which the player in question has, then it will allow Q to wean our go to players ice time down a bit during the grueling stretches of the season.</p>


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You always have to look at the big picture, when we are back in the playoffs looking to win another cup no one will remember the 6 goal drubbing in Colorado if our team defense has turned around. If it hasn't then we can look back and then expect a short lived playoff run, but Q is clearly testing the waters with other options right now.</p>

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

So what if Bollig is seeing PK minutes right now. I'm sure at some point Q will see a young inexpensive 4th liner developing PK skills (or not) and keep developing him so by the time the playoffs roll around the PK will be firing on all cylinders.</p>


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But at this early point of the season the pk is a work in progress and probably will be for a while until they figure out what the best options are.  </p>

 

[PatrickSharpRules]

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So what if Bollig is seeing PK minutes right now. I'm sure at some point Q will see a young inexpensive 4th liner developing PK skills (or not) and keep developing him so by the time the playoffs roll around the PK will be firing on all cylinders.</p>


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But at this early point of the season the pk is a work in progress and probably will be for a while until they figure out what the best options are.  </p>
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Hahah, literally my point exactly. We posted at the same time, great minds think a like.</p>

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

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With our best players exhausted from a Cup winning season, and prepping for another title run I am would not be surprised if Q is trying to test our low end forwards now. If they prove they can be effective in a PK and defensive situation, which the player in question has, then it will allow Q to wean our go to players ice time down a bit during the grueling stretches of the season.</p>


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You always have to look at the big picture, when we are back in the playoffs looking to win another cup no one will remember the 6 goal drubbing in Colorado if our team defense has turned around. If it hasn't then we can look back and then expect a short lived playoff run, but Q is clearly testing the waters with other options right now.</p>


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Brilliant ! bscene-drinkingcheers:</p>
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[Shantz My Pants]

To add on: Q obviously has rolled Bollig through on the PK during practice and liked what he's seen. I'm sure it's something that Bollig is working. It's not like he's tossing shit on the wall and hoping it sticks.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Again, I'd like to know what those other plays can do that Bollig can't on a PK.

 

[Variable]

Name something other than maybe checking and that's your answer.</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Can Bollig block shots? Yes.


Can Bollig keep an active stick through passing lanes? Yes.


Can he stop and start? Yes.


Can he skate to a lose puck and fire it out of the zone? Yes.


Can he apply pressure to the puck carrier and take away their time and space? Yes.


Does he know when and how to shift in the PK formation? Haven't seen it, but I'm going to assume yes.


Does he work hard? Yes.


Almost any forward can be a PKer, you just have to be willing to do all of the above. Some are obviously much better than others. Bollig it seems is being used on the PK to give other forwards who usually have a spot a shift off. A shift on the PK can take a lot out of you, especially if the other team keeps possession in your zone and moves the puck around. Being a PKer is more about a team concept, than individual and that's why some guys lose focus. It's about working as a 4 man unit instead of being a playmaker on the 2nd line.

 

[Variable]

When you have to form your question in a way where the player who is obviously worst player on the team looks like a good option for the PK, you've kinda killed your own arugment.</p>


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"Can he start and stop?", lol. Got me there Trev.</p>

 

[R K]

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What am I wrong about? And why do you say again as if I have been talking to you at all? </p>


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Why the hell are you so volatile, take a chill pill dude, we are watching our defending champions get off to a great start. Versteeg still has only been here a week, he will be on your pk very shortly, in the mean time, just sit back and enjoy the best team in the NHL and shutup.</p>
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It's a she...</p>

 

[R K]

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Can Bollig block shots? Yes.


Can Bollig keep an active stick through passing lanes? Yes.


Can he stop and start? Yes.


Can he skate to a lose puck and fire it out of the zone? Yes.


Can he apply pressure to the puck carrier and take away their time and space? Yes.


Does he know when and how to shift in the PK formation? Haven't seen it, but I'm going to assume yes.


Does he work hard? Yes.


Almost any forward can be a PKer, you just have to be willing to do all of the above. Some are obviously much better than others. Bollig it seems is being used on the PK to give other forwards who usually have a spot a shift off. A shift on the PK can take a lot out of you, especially if the other team keeps possession in your zone and moves the puck around. Being a PKer is more about a team concept, than individual and that's why some guys lose focus. It's about working as a 4 man unit instead of being a playmaker on the 2nd line.</p>
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Nothing more or less than Ben Eager.  But hey, fans from their couch need to pretend they are an NHL coach sometimes.  Don't they?</p>


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15-4-4 is really all that counts right?</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Variable, I answered the questions that are usually tasked for a PKer. Not my fault it shoots down any argument you could come back with. Don't worry, going after me instead is usually a sign of lacking anything else.

 

[Variable]

lol if you want to believe that, that's fine. I'm talking with someone who believes Kruger and Frolik played with a "physical edge", so this again is another topic where until you stop believing in ridiculous notions like that, it's pointless to continue.</p>


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And then a chime in from a guy who not too long ago was screaming in all caps here about how THE TEAM WINS IN SPITE OF Q! HANDZUS CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM!!11!!1</p>


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Room to talk indeed.</p>

 

[Pez68]

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Can Bollig block shots? Yes.


Can Bollig keep an active stick through passing lanes? Yes.


Can he stop and start? Yes.


Can he skate to a lose puck and fire it out of the zone? Yes.


Can he apply pressure to the puck carrier and take away their time and space? Yes.


Does he know when and how to shift in the PK formation? Haven't seen it, but I'm going to assume yes.


Does he work hard? Yes.


Almost any forward can be a PKer, you just have to be willing to do all of the above. Some are obviously much better than others. Bollig it seems is being used on the PK to give other forwards who usually have a spot a shift off. A shift on the PK can take a lot out of you, especially if the other team keeps possession in your zone and moves the puck around. Being a PKer is more about a team concept, than individual and that's why some guys lose focus. It's about working as a 4 man unit instead of being a playmaker on the 2nd line.</p>
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And which of those does he do BETTER than any other player on this team? :icon-lol:</p>


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I also find the "Q knows best" arguments to be silly as well. Crawford is currently on pace to start around 70 games. If that happens, good luck going anywhere in the playoffs....</p>


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Ben Eager was twice the player Bollig is.... Skating, hitting, puck handling, pretty much all categories. Eager never killed penalties.</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Physical edge wasn't the proper word. Gritty I guess was a better adjective.


Regardless, I answered your question why Bollig can kill penalties. I've never said he's better than anyone else, just that he could get the job done.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

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And which of those does he do BETTER than any other player on this team? :lol:</p></blockquote>


You have to take different variables into place. Who's in the box? Who's tired on the bench? Who are you going to put out at the end of the kill. How much time is left in the game?


I'm not saying he's the best, just making an argument on why it could work.

 

[Pez68]

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You have to take different variables into place. Who's in the box? Who's tired on the bench? Who are you going to put out at the end of the kill. How much time is left in the game?


I'm not saying he's the best, just making an argument on why it could work.</p>
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In none of those circumstances would Bollig be the guy I looked at on the bench to go kill the penalty. It's pretty obvious to me that Brookbank and Bollig are two of Q's pets. Much like Nick Boynton, Sean O'Donnell, and Matt Walker were.</p>

 

[R K]

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And which of those does he do BETTER than any other player on this team? :icon-lol:</p>


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I also find the "Q knows best" arguments to be silly as well. Crawford is currently on pace to start around 70 games. If that happens, good luck going anywhere in the playoffs....</p>


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Ben Eager was twice the player Bollig is.... Skating, hitting, puck handling, pretty much all categories. Eager never killed penalties.</p>
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 Oh bullshit.</p>


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And if a 4th line player is the only thing to ***** about have at it.</p>


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15-4-4  And YET to play their best hockey in any instance.</p>