Noonthirtyjoe
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If the 3, last second losses were wins the whole posting would be different altogether. This is a talented team.
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People like to romanticize that as the fall of the Bears, but the truth of it is that for as much as they disliked each other, Mike ditka and Buddy Ryan were better together than they ever were apart and his departure is what signal the end of that iteration of the Bears.
That doesn't mean Michael McCaskey didn't screw up the bears for time to come but even at that time the impact wouldn't have been immediate.
I blame Michael more for the Dave McGinnis fiasco and the joke of an organization it became in the years after the fall of the 85 team.
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Wait till Kyle Shannahan becomes available and they hire Ron Rivera instead because he's familiar with the Bears way.
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Ironically, statistically, the 1986 Vince Tobin defense was better than the 1985 Buddy Ryan defense. That team was was simply gushing with talent. For that you can thank the late Jim Finks.
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I guess even when winning, there's dysfunction. Jim Finks quit when Ditka was hired without his consent.
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Ditka was a great motivator. He wasn't a very good Xes and Os coach though. That's why teams like the 49ers, who had the best Xes and Os coach after Paul Brown and the Redskins always beat the Bears in the playoffs. But your point is not lost. That 1985 team was pure chaos and had so much internal strife it was bound to self-destruct.
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Yeah honestly I don't mind that at all, so long as you perform (which too often there's an inverse relationship there). As an athlete you only have a few years to capitalize on that relatively short peak athletic time in your life.
But the trappings of success can't make you fat and not put in the hard work that got you there.
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Inevitable when you have 7 Hall of Famers on the team.
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The bright side of this is peak disfunction in 2024 means the coach is fired mid-season. They have made two coaching changes, it's step forward albeit the Bears way of doing things, at least it's moving towards accountability.
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Its a chance to see what the new HC can do. A test drive. I'm just gonna stay open minded. I hope this guy is good and there are a few out there I have interest in.
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I feel like peak dysfunction would have been George telling Kevin Warren, "Mother and I don't fire our servants in the middle of the season!"
As much of a train wreck as this all has been, I feel like I can almost see the clearing through the trees. But the most Bears outcome is that somehow that clearing through the trees leads to an even more monumental train wreck. Hold onto your butts.
As much of a train wreck as this all has been, I feel like I can almost see the clearing through the trees. But the most Bears outcome is that somehow that clearing through the trees leads to an even more monumental train wreck. Hold onto your butts.
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Peak dysfunction is when they start making Christmas ornaments mocking the Bears
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No, not even close. This roster of players have managed some wins in spite of the coaching staff so we have a long way to fall. And in case anyone needs it, I’ll be your rock at rock bottom.
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They is always more room for distinction. Thats easy. Its greatness that gets run out fast
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He lost me as soon as he whined about Lovie.
Lovie was giving away games just like Flus did. The difference is Flus came in where Lovie left off.
It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you lose. Both used prevent to give away games they should've won.
Prevent was figured out and old with Lovie, he couldn't adapt. He deserved to be fired, Flus never should've been hired.
It wasn't going to get better with Lovie (and it never did anywhere else). Anyone who actually paid attention saw him going soft for years. He should've been gone mid season 2009.
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You should know with the Bears there is never peak dysfunction, they are constantly setting a new high bar year by year!