Hawks Not In On Richards, Are Interested In Eager

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forget about not getting richards for a second, but the fact that they are looking at eager has me fucking furious. this was so predictable and I was hoping to be wrong when I thought the hawks were going to try to get a grindy fire and passion guy who likes to fight sometimes. the game of hockey has changed since the ciccarelli/domi days and it is a much more finesse and wide open scoring game that guys like this are a waste of roster space. **** that!
 

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Uh oh. There goes Dews's panties.

its not even about not getting richards which i knew was a stretch, but the fact that we are looking at grinder non skilled tough guys is fucking stupid. if they want to bring ex hawks back, than go get Ladd, and actual player who can play and make a fucking difference.
 

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Eager can actually skate. He may have some of the worst hands I have ever seen, and looks lost on offense half the time, but he is still an upgrade over a guy like Scott and in a position of need.

Plus, he kills penalties.
 

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Not to belabour the point- but, are you sure that you aren't getting your players mixed up?

Dino Ciccarelli wasn't a fighter - but a scorerer -one of those types that seemed to get under certain opponents' skins- but never dropped the gloves -and made it to the HoF.

Dino Ciccarelli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apprently the guy had somer. er legal issues ... and probably was known for trying to use his stick on guys when the officials weren't looking...

but, the point being -- not a goon, in the accepted sense of the term - just a run of the mill ah with a scoring upside.

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Considering the source is Jaeckel -it doesn;t even rate grain of salt category ... but, no, in fact Eager wouldn't be an upgrade.

How anyone can get all worked up about not having a guy whose point totals have never reached 20 - ever... and can take penalties (not draw -but take), with the best of them -is a little out there.

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Edited: Oh, duh me -- the old "... one name I am told is..." yeah Bovine Fecal Matter. The old you can't prove I wasn't trick - the guy (author) is a joke. And a bad one.
 
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Eager can actually skate. He may have some of the worst hands I have ever seen, and looks lost on offense half the time, but he is still an upgrade over a guy like Scott and in a position of need.

Plus, he kills penalties.

This.

I don't have a problem adding Ben Eager to this team. I think he could be a nice guy in the bottom lines. I do have a problem if Ben Eager and Jon Madden (for example based on some earlier reports) are the big additions at forward planned through free agency. I don't think they are, but we will find out soon enough when July 1st comes around.
 

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If taking stupid penalties is an upgrade over Scott - then I think some of you missed some of the finer points of Eager's game.

Now you can argue that Scott wasn't on the ice enough to have done so -but you can actually verify Eager's track record -and it was such that got him moved out of Atlanta last season as well... the guy seems to have some issues with personal discipline and playing situation hockey.

In short, you got a guy with a short fuse, and takes selfish penalties- hardly an upgrade ... I doubt there is any interest in bringing that back to the team. And also something that you will find more often on teams that lose -with good reason, they put their team at a disadvantage--- otoh, the team they are on will get some extra penalty killing time (for no real reason).
 

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Not to belabour the point- but, are you sure that you aren't getting your players mixed up?

Dino Ciccarelli wasn't a fighter - but a scorerer -one of those types that seemed to get under certain opponents' skins- but never dropped the gloves -and made it to the HoF.

Dino Ciccarelli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apprently the guy had somer. er legal issues ... and probably was known for trying to use his stick on guys when the officials weren't looking...

but, the point being -- not a goon, in the accepted sense of the term - just a run of the mill ah with a scoring upside.

________

Considering the source is Jaeckel -it doesn;t even rate grain of salt category ... but, no, in fact Eager wouldn't be an upgrade.

How anyone can get all worked up about not having a guy whose point totals have never reached 20 - ever... and can take penalties (not draw -but take), with the best of them -is a little out there.

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Edited: Oh, duh me -- the old "... one name I am told is..." yeah Bovine Fecal Matter. The old you can't prove I wasn't trick - the guy (author) is a joke. And a bad one.

he wasnt probert or domi in regards as a fighter, but he was the tough guy prick that annoyed people with some fighting and dirty play.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWV11Rcu8EY]YouTube - ‪Kay Whitmore vs Dino Ciccarelli Mar 17, 1995‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1smxdTrYuw]YouTube - ‪Dino Ciccarelli and Scott Stevens‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OffC9EYqKHA]YouTube - ‪Danny Gare Dino Ciccarelli fight‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebxXeGgd1yU]YouTube - ‪Dino Ciccarelli vs David Shaw‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgS1A9uQ6o&playnext=1&list=PL257DBBC16C23D114]YouTube - ‪Ron Sutter vs Dino Ciccarelli‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dUpKW_4tc]YouTube - ‪Dino Ciccarelli cheapshot Sucker Punch‬‏[/ame]
 

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I know about Ciccarelli - but thought your original line was going more for the Dave Schultz angle of 'enforcer' type than regular hemorrhoid.

He had some class, didn't he- going after Whitmore. Jeez, well, I never said Dino wasn't a loser- and he was one of the reasons I hated the North Stars. . . and was a Secord fan. (Still am actually).
 

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Eager can actually skate. He may have some of the worst hands I have ever seen, and looks lost on offense half the time, but he is still an upgrade over a guy like Scott and in a position of need.

Plus, he kills penalties.

Eager would be an upgrade over the crap we had on the 4th line.

This is exactly how I feel.

Seems very odd that they cant find anyone for this role that they like better than Eager, but whatever.

Contrary to most, I liked what he did against the Canucks in game 4.
 

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It's weird how many former Hawks are avaliable...

Wiz
Sopel
Eager
Madden
Ladd (a bit of a stretch)
Versteeg (another stretch, but there are rumors)

We're all very familiar with these guys so it seems almost too easy to consider them for acquisition now. It's so easy that it feels like a cop out, and to an extent, I agree. There are a lot more players out there (duh) and the thought of bringing in some fresh blood is certainly appealing. After all, we know these ex-Hawks so well that we know their flaws perhaps even more than we know their positives.

But, the truth is that some of these ex-Hawks would fill some of the needs that this current team needs (defense, toughness up front).

All I know for sure is that it will be interesting to see how management sees things.
 

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I know I'm spamming the shit out of this thread, but I just read that entire link...

Did anyone else read it and like what they read? You can poo-poo the Eager and John Scott talk and that's fine. But the fact that they had a strong draft and they're looking to add depth rather than big contracts... that's the kind of stuff I like to read.

I tend to prefer optimism when it comes to the Hawks and I'm a firm believer that guys in NHL front offices know a shit load more than loud mouth fans do. That said, I feel especially good about where this team is headed.

Though I still have my fingers crossed they don't drop the ball.
 

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spam away!

im still worried that the money is going to be spent in over paying for fillers at this point. If they want to get eager or whover that is fine as long as they fill in the 2nd line center role (and it not being bolland).
 

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im still worried that the money is going to be spent in over paying for fillers at this point. If they want to get eager or whover that is fine as long as they fill in the 2nd line center role (and it not being bolland).

Yeah, the overpayment threat is real, but I'd take overpayment over too-long contracts and I think the front office sees things that way too. Huet and Campbell situations will never happen here again.

A 2nd center is absolutely a top need here. Some toughness up front (4th line) and at least one more solid defenseman (dependable, not great) are the others. Problem is that a legit 2nd line center is harder to find than the other two areas that need addressing.

I would not be surprised at all to see the team go into the season without really addressing the center need... instead hoping to see if a healthy Hossa can really dominate and essentially carry that 2nd line on his shoulders for a while. If that falls flat, look for either a dealine deal or for them to make a splash in next year's off season.

I know that doesn't sound appealing (especially right now), but I think the front office is not looking to over-react to any needs right now.

But hey- anything can happen at any time. The Hawks are a top destination right now with money to spend and roster spots to fill. I THINK they're going to be conservative, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 

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